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Are you in favour of religious persecution?
No, Christians have a long history of religious persecution. Or maybe you don't remember what the church was like in the 14-1600s. I am in favour of revenge against such a horrible religion, who committed the crusades, the inquisition, the banning of science, and nowadays tries its best to ban women and LGBT+ people's rights.
All those 500 year old Christians in India finally getting what they deserve.
Yeah, so are the 1,000 year old Mughal emperors.
Its ok to dislike or even detest a religion and its heads, but to cheer for religious persecution is beyond the pale.
And that justifies their religious persecution in 2023?
There''s an ethnic & communal genocide going on in Manipur, India, for the past 110 days by Meitei Hindu supremacists with the active participation of the Hndu supremacist state. In this violence Kukis who are mostly Christians have been raped, tortured, killed, their limbs hacked, burnt alive, rendered homeless, their homes & churches have been burnt. A severely injured 7 year old child was burnt alive in the ambulance along with his mother and his aunt.
Christians in various parts of India have faced and continue to face horrifying brutality by Hindu supremacists. here's one such incident https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Kandhamal_violence
Graham Staines, a pastor along with his two sons, Philip (aged 10) and Timothy (aged 6), were burnt alive in the vehicle they were sleeping in by Hindu supremacists.
In less violent incidents, Hindu supremacists have sttopped them fommeeting, from parying together, torn their Bibles, baten them up, lost them their jobs, made false allegations and police complaints on them.
Yesterday, a Hindu supremacist mob attacked a church, wounded the people, tore up their Bibles, and then harassed them when they were inside the police station.
And here you are cheering their persecution, because they're somehow answerable for events that happened before their birth, which they had no hand in?
Why do you keep re-creating the ame comment in different spots?
you decide who gets to be Hindu or not? where did you get this idea of "qualification" from anyways?
They call themselves Hindu and they follow Hindutva, the Hindu supremacist ideology. They say their cause is to create a Hindu rashtra (a Hindu nation). Their entire personality is built around the symbols & rituals & gods of Hinduism. If Hindus don't want their religion to be tarnished by association with these extremists and terrorists, then they should so something concrete to stop Hindu supremacists from calling themselves Hindu.
When they stop calling themselves Hindu, I'll also stop calling them Hindu supremacists.
You're just a troll who I'll be blocking.
I dare you to walk up to a Hindu supremacist (whether you're in India or outside) and tell them they're not Hindu. I would advie you to have good medical/ life insurance, just in case they don't buy your "the spiritual Hindu package".
I'm Indian and everyday we see Hindu supremacists creating terror with state backing. I know what I'm talking about, because I live it.
get on to SM, facebook and twitter are chockful of them.
You'll find them plenty of them Australia too.
I'm not OP, but why do you keep calling these people "Hindu" supremacists? They are just extremists and terrorists, not Hindus at all.
One of the core beliefs in Hinduism is ahimsa, ie, non-violence. Practicing ahimsa is extremely important for a Hindu, in order to achieve their ultimate goal of moksha (escape from the cycle of reincarnation) by accumulating good karma.
Anyone who doesn't practice ahmisa isn't qualified to be called a Hindu. Since they're not a Hindu, it's wrong to call them "Hindu supremacists", when there is no "Hindu" in them.
Why did you delete youre previous comment that I answered and re-create the same here? Is sealioning also a core belief for you or is it a path to moksha?
Anyways, here's my answer. it's the same asit was before. This isn't for you, its for the benefit of anyone who comes across your q and wants an answer.
They call themselves Hindu and they follow Hindutva, the Hindu supremacist ideology. They say their cause is to create a Hindu rashtra (a Hindu nation). Their entire personality is built around the symbols & rituals & gods of Hinduism. If Hindus don't want their religion to be tarnished by association with these extremists and terrorists, then they should so something concrete to stop Hindu supremacists from calling themselves Hindu.
When they stop calling themselves Hindu, I'll also stop calling them Hindu supremacists.
So in your view a person, identifying as Hindu, who feels that their religious duty is to spread love and understanding instead of hate and division has no chance, right? They are accountable for this pogroms and there’s no way out of that because you have already made your mind up that Hinduism is a brutally inhuman ideology.
Are you aware that that’s true for every religion?
How would you refer to a Hindu (or a Christian) who sees it as their religious duty to help their Christian (or Jewish) neighbor against Hindus (or Christians) committing a pogrom?
All Hindu supremacists are Hindu, but all Hindus are not Hindu supremacists. They don't stop being Hindu because they are Hindu supremacists, only Hindus can tell & make them drop the "Hindu" identity from their supremacist ideology. Until that is done, they are Hindu supremacists.
Its quite similiar to all Islamic terrorists are Muslim, but all Muslims are not Islamic terrorists.
replace with religion or ethnicity as needed.
I don't cheer for children being persecuted, as they are usually too young to properly understand their religion. I also don't advocate such violent and brutal measures, even though there are and were Christians that used those exact methods to spread their religion. But I don't support Christianity, which is a religion of hate, and am not too concerned about adult Christians being attacked for their faith.
You don't have to support Christianity, or any religion for that matter, to be against religious persecution. They are mutually exclusive. They are not two sides of the same coin where you must land on one side or the other, they are two separate coins.
Yes, the victim of organized religion is the individual, but the victim of religious persecution is counterintuitively not the religion itself, nor its systems or organizations, it is unfortunately more individuals.
thank you for aying what I've been struggling to articulate.
Religious/ethnic persecution, religious/ethnic supremacism, and religious/ethnic extremism are the hallmarks of barbarism and opposing them is the minimum basic of a civilized people.
A Hindu supremacist mob doesn't gently take the children away to safety and then return to rape, torture, and kill their parents.
Well, it sounds as if your ideology is definitely one of hate, just like the ideology of some (!) Christians. Are you American?
Not even.
Imagine being so pissed at long dead people that you become a minor monster yourself.
Well, let’s assume the ancestors of these Christians had been forced into Christianity like it happened in Spain after the Reconquista. They were threatened by death in case they continued practicing their original religion. Their children were indoctrinated with Christian beliefs. Tens of thousands who weren’t able to let go off their own beliefs were killed publicly. Many have been falsely accused of secretly performing their old rites only to rob their fortunes. So eventually the kids of their had forgotten about their old religion and were Christians from the heart. Which according to you makes them a perfect victim for revenge loving people like you.
But of course, that was never the case in India. There lower cast Hindus made an informed decision to become Christians in order to get rid of the oppression by high cast Hindus. Which again, according to you, makes them a perfect victim for revenge loving people like you.
You really must be a wise human being with a deep sense of justice.
people have an even longer history of committing terrible atrocities. im personally in favour of revenge against such a horrible group of beings