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[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Because Linux still makes up a small % of PC Gamers, so CDPR hasn't prioritized it. Plus they'd need to have some kind of proton-like middleware (or just proton) for the majority of their games (which are mostly 15-20+ years old) to be playable. It seems like a large engineering challenge for a company which isn't nearly as wealthy as valve

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Heroic did it. Why couldn't GOG?

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because of the power of friendship... And open-source.

And caring about Linux...

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

CD Projekt is a public company, which would likely be cautious in relying on complex third-party tools like Wine.

[–] Gawdsausage@lemm.ee 9 points 1 week ago

Most businesses rely on third party tools and software libraries. Particularly open source ones.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Valve isn't public, but they seem to be making plenty off of WINE. In fact, companies of all types love building on other projects, because it reduces how much work they need to do.

They just don't seem to care. They could literally hire someone who works on Heroic to make an official Galaxy port reusing most of Heroic's functionality. Yet they don't.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yep, no public company would ever use Apache, nginx, AWS. Those are all 3rd party tools.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They are third-party tools used by other thousands of companies.

Wine used to have no product built on top of it, and CodeWeavers is independent.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 week ago

Aren't there a bunch of ports based on Wine in a wrapper? Those are all products.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"This river doesn't need a bridge because almost nobody ever crosses it."

Also is there a reason they can't just distribute proton? It's open under BSD, so they'd be free to do it.

[–] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Gog is not in the bridge building business though

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 week ago

This is a valid rebuttal, as I was talking completely literally. I apologise, I thought they were a civil engineering and construction firm.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then maybe they shouldn't have publicly said they were planning to build this bridge ten years ago.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Anyone who knows how software companies work knows the pattern. One dude wants to do something and pushes hard for it and things get done. Then they leave the company / get promoted / move to a different part of the company and there is no more will to do said thing. The people in the company have forgotten about linux support 200 times already, and saying something 10 years ago won't change that. Make linux be something regular gamers want to run, get a double digit adoption rate, maybe they'll revisit it

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Then they should have kept it internal until they were ready to commit. People spent money with them as a result of that commitment, and it may not have been a large part of their customer base, but it is exactly the people they courted with the public statement. They wanted to make the announcement to reap the PR benefits, so now they need to follow through and deliver.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or else what happens? The reality is nobody cares.

[–] AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

Nothing really happens because Linux doesn't have the market share to demand better, and I never said that wasn't the case. My point is that they shouldn't have put themselves in this position, not that we have any power to make them follow through.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes, they are unreliable. The fact that this is typical of software companies doesn't excuse the behaviour or make it a sound business strategy.

You're not actually arguing with what's being said, you're just normalising it.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What do you think this is? It's a random post, not a debate. I'm not here to argue a point. No amount of "discussion" will reach them

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So you have no point and should be ignored. Thanks for confirming that.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Real life isn't a discussion with arguments for and against. The sooner you learn that this thread, and any similar to it are completely insignificant, and that your complaints and "arguments" aren't reaching anyone, the better off you'll be.

[–] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't understand why you're taking this so seriously. You said yourself it's insignificant.

So if that's the case why not let it go? Is getting the last word important to you even though the discussion isn't?

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

It's a free world and I can do whatever I want to do. Including when to post a comment and when not to post one.

[–] rapchee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

osx has an even lower market share (at least according to the steam survey), and they made one for it

[–] Polderviking@feddit.nl 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Cyberpunk (and Witcher 3) already runs, and honestly way better then I expected, on my steam deck. They even have a specific graphics setting to accommodate for it's obviously limited hardware, so CDPR are also aware people play their games on the steam deck as evidenced by this graphics setting.

Steamdeck is linux. Obviously this proton translation layer that is being leveraged is very capable.

For all intents and purposeses, CDPR is already where they need to be for half-decent Linux support and honestly I don't understand why they didn't already draw that last sprint that would be required to fully support this.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Proton is open source, they could just use that. Valve would hardly complain as it helps more games run on steamdeck.

I want to use GoG more but they seem to increasingly not care about Linux. So I use Steam.

[–] patatahooligan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Well it's not going to be the same engineering challenge as it was for Valve, because they only need to integrate proton, not develop it. If proton works on Lutris (via umu), an open source project with no corporate backing as far as I'm aware, surely CDPR can at least attempt it. This is probably the best time to do it, too. SteamOS has been well received and is likely to end up on even more handhelds, and Windows 10 is nearing its EoL. If GoG is one of the first storefronts to allow its users to play outside of windows it might generate a lot of positive sentiment in the community, just like they did with their anti-DRM stance.