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The unofficial non-partisan Lemmy movement to bring proportional representation to all levels of government in Canada.

🗳️Voters deserve more choice and accountability from all politicians.


Le mouvement non officiel et non partisan de Lemmy visant à introduire la représentation proportionnelle à tous les niveaux de gouvernement au Canada.

🗳️Les électeurs méritent davantage de choix et de responsabilité de la part de tous les politiciens.




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Section 3 – Policy Initiatives & 2025 Deliverables

11. Democratic and Electoral Reform

The Parties will work together to create a special legislative all-party committee to evaluate and recommend policy and legislation measures to be pursued beginning in 2026 to increase democratic engagement & voter participation, address increasing political polarization, and improve the representativeness of government. The committee will review and consider preferred methods of proportional representation as part of its deliberations. The Government will work with the BCGC to establish the detailed terms of reference for this review, which are subject to the approval of both parties. The terms of reference will include the ability to receive expert and public input, provide for completion of the Special Committee’s work in Summer 2025, and public release of the Committee’s report within 45 days of completion. The committee will also review the administration of the 43rd provincial general election, including consideration of the Chief Electoral Officer’s report on the 43rd provincial general election, and make recommendations for future elections.

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[–] MyBrainHurts@lemmy.ca -3 points 2 weeks ago (71 children)

Please, anything but full PR. Please. In a polarized landscape PR is leading to increasingly bad outcomes (Israel, Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, Poland etc.) In a PR system, the Far Right would be running France.

This is not happening because the citizens of those countries are less good than Canadians.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Austria doesn’t have an extremist government, Poland’s culture on issues is different, Israel’s democracy is flawed as the foundation of the country is dubious. If the majority of the people want fascism it’s going to happen in any electoral system, the 2 big parties are not immune to that corrupting influence look at how Donald Trump and Robert Mugabe reduced their parties to. Winner-take-all systems allow an extremist party to win a majority of the seats with only a minority of the vote thus having full legislative control.

Canada, the United States and the United Kingdom are actually much more polarized under first-past-the-post than say Ireland, Denmark and Switzerland. As proportional representation actually decreases polarization as the politics are much friendlier and it’s much less of us vs them since they’re more than 2 parties vying for our votes.

You also conveniently left out Norway, Ireland, Denmark, Switzerland in your argument.

[–] MyBrainHurts@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago

Austria doesn’t have an extremist government

Sure, but Kickl almost came to power in large part as a result of general dissatisfaction with politics in Austrai because... You guessed it, PR leads to not particularly effective government.

Israel’s democracy is flawed as the foundation of the country is dubious.

You can disagree with the creation of Israel etc but I fail to see how that means that we don't have to pay attention to their experience with PR.

Poland’s culture on issues is different

So the Polish culture is just inherently racist and tends to autocracy? I really hate this line of argument, it's the same sort of stuff that has been historically used dismiss the humanity of Black and Indigenous people.

If the majority of the people want fascism it’s going to happen in any electoral system,

Not saying FPTP is perfect. 2 party systems tend not to be great either. That's why I'm really happy that Canada has a wide mix, from NDP to the Bloc, to the Conservatives.

You also conveniently left out Norway, Ireland, Denmark, Switzerland

Yes... And you haven't pointed out all the successful countries that use FPTP, or do you really think there are no successful countries with FPTP?

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