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[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (12 children)

Pish. Calvinism teaches that God was the serpent? You're a bit off base there.

Waiting for reference. Other than a Chick tract.

[–] dontbelasagne@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Ok, I misrembered the details so my bad on that one. What it actually teaches was that god created the serpent, put the serpent in the garden, knew Adam and eve wouldn't resist the serpent so god still wanted all the wars and misery in this world.

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (10 children)

"Wanted" is a funny word. The idea that there's something difficult to understand about a supreme being who is so far above us that he created not only us but the entire universe according to what's revealed about him? That shouldn't seem a strange idea.

Imagine if we met an advanced alien who had technology far beyond ours. We might not be able to understand a lot of the way they thought, spoke, or acted.

The thing is, it actually says that in the Bible.

Isaiah 55:8-9 NLT “My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts,” says the Lord. “And my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine. For just as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than your ways and my thoughts higher than your thoughts.

Yet we keep wanting to subject Him not only to our reasoning, but to our language.

[–] GoodLuckToFriends@lemmy.today 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts,” says the Lord. “And my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine. For just as the heavens are higher than the earth, so my ways are higher than your ways and my thoughts higher than your thoughts.

Yet if adam and eve had just eaten the fruit of immortality, apparently they would have been exactly like god. That's also in the bible. It's almost as if there are contradictory parts and it's full of bunk...

[–] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes it is. It doesn't say immortality, it says the tree of life in every translation I can find, but we're all using translations.

I don't fully understand that, but neither do you. I don't pretend to have all the answers, but I'm not going to pretend not to have the answers I do have.

A good guiding principle for understanding the Bible is the plain things are the main things, and the main things are the plain things.

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