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[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (6 children)

What about the claims that he only used Autopilot, and not Tesla's Full Self Driving?

(Context: I hate Tesla, just curious for the sake of an honest argument)

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago

All the other cars he tested stopped just fine. Who cares about fiddling with modes and shit.

[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

"Full shelf driving" still needs to be in quotes. It's a feature's brand name for a product that doesn't actually have full self driving capabilities.

Try not to carry water for their attempted, repeated lie.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not any tangible difference in this scenario. Both use vision only. And both use the same computers.

[–] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But do they use a different software? Maybe FSD is more advanced than autopilot and could have reacted better?

Just playing devil's advocate here.

The software may change but these tests show it’s the hardware that’s limiting them. If the Tesla can’t see a kid through fog, it doesn’t matter what software you pick, that kid gunna die.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

Yes, completely different software, but both are limited by machine vision.

[–] RickC137@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Human drivers use vision only

[–] toolverine@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Human drivers generally use sound as well.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fortunately humans have much better hardware and software to accompany that vision.

[–] RickC137@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

FSD hard and software has just to be good enough for the job.

And still we cause so many deaths because we are tired, distracted or emotional when driving.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

FSD hard and software has just to be good enough for the job.

But...it's not.

[–] RickC137@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Based on? Have you seen the progress in users YouTube videos?

It's not there yet but I don't see how it can't work with vision only. It just has to be safer than human drivers.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Based on?

The fact that both systems are vision only, as I said previously.

Have you seen the progress in users YouTube videos?

Even better, I used it myself. For 3 months. It's awful.

[–] sour@feddit.org 17 points 3 days ago

The other car only used emergency breaking, so there's that.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He was helping out Tesla by doing that. He was helping them get the wins they got instead of just Tesla massacring the kid every time. Note to self: As a pedestrian and you see a tesla, don't cross the street.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I like to help a Tesla out by throwing it batteries, Philly style.

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 2 points 2 days ago

Philip DeFranco had him on Yesterday and he said the reason he didn't use FSD was that it required you to input an address, but that there isn't any difference in terms of the sensors being used.

Given that the other car didn't appear to have a version of FSD either, I'm unclear as to why Autopilot wasn't the correct move for the most accurate comparison.