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Is Blocking Ever Going To Block?
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I have also... but those sites weren't federated were they?
The fediverse is not "a site"... it's a network of many independent sites. You can do whatever you want on your instance, but you don't get to control all the other instances.
If you demand the ability to mute other people and prevent them from communicating with each other, you are fundamentally in the wrong place. If you choose to make a public statement, the public gets to respond to it. Your choice is whether or not you want to read their response.
I just don't want people I block to see my posts or threads when they are logged in to the account I blocked.
That should not be hard to implement, federated or not.
How?
You can't send an email to another server and then command that server not to deliver it to the recipient. You can follow it up to request that with a recall, sure... but there aren't many that will actually comply. It's the choice of the server operator.
With federated public posts, there is currently no mechanism to say "show this message to everyone except Larry". And there shouldn't be, because it would dramatically increase processing requirements across every instance and also be pointlessly trivial for Larry to work around it.
You aren't in control of the internet... just your own little part of it. If you can't handle that, again, you're in the wrong place. There are plenty of top-down-controlled individual sites that already do that. The fediverse never will.
You can choose to not see what you don't want to see, but you don't get to tell other people not to read your public comments or to not speak. You have your rights, and they have theirs.
It should be trivial to set a "blocked=true" marker and not show those posts.
If nothing else, it should possible to set a blocked tag not federate replies from blocked users to users that block them if an asshole set up their own server with blackjack and hookers.
I am aware how easy it is to open links in private tabs.
Have only been advocating making it that much more difficult to harass people.
I want a speed bump, not a bunker.
A way to get rid of people who care enough to be assholes but not enough to sign out of their accounts.
I'm sorry, but you don't know nearly as much as you think you do. This isn't like Reddit. What you are asking for is not technologically simple, it would be trivial to circumvent, and perhaps most importantly, it's philosophically incompatible with the very concept of public speech.
If you are incapable of or unwilling to accept that, there's no point in continuing to attempt to explain this to you. It's all been addressed, repeatedly.
No, it actually hasn't.
Y'all just seem to think people have "a right" to harass others.
I skimmed the other threads and it has all been thoroughly covered.
You just seem to think you have "a right" to control others.
Nobody that you've blocked can harass you in a way that your demand to mute their account would prevent, Karen. Watch me prove it right now.
Oh, ya skimmed huh?
Doesn't make you any less wrong.
There is no reason why the feature I have laid out couldn't be implemented, and I believe I have laid out plenty of justification of why it should.
Again, the person who wants to allow further harassment calling the person who wants to provide a means to stop it "a karen". You are a silly person.
This blocked=true would then require the server to have a massive if statement, that can't be (usefully) cahched cause its user and post specifc. Extra branching in the code is gonna have a less pretty output as is, but times that by both the number of users and number of posts that the entire instance is federated with?
Just gonna make the fediverse even less popular with higher server costs, and will for sure be abused by the DDoS'ers that are already plaugeing popular instances. All this would them be negated from the 2 seconds it takes on any lemmy app I've used, where you can just press browse as guest.
Can't reply as a guest though, can you?