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Mr. Drummond was actively strangling Mark S to death knowing Cold Harbor had been completed. He wouldn't have done that if they needed Mark S (or Gemma) for anything anymore.
So I agree that Drummond trying to kill Mark aligns with that, but it doesn't actually align with their previous actions.
For example Gemma doesn't go into the Cold Harbor room until Mark completes the room. However Gemma goes into the other rooms multiple times. We see in the dentist room innie Gemma believes she was just their. In the Christmas room innie Gemma is tired of the repetitive activity. So even at 100% completion they test the rooms multiple times. When Gemma goes into Cold Harbor they are testing to make sure it works.
If Cold Harbor was the pinnacle of their achievements, why would they only test that room once, when they tested other rooms multiple times?
I think the other rooms were gathering the data that Innie Mark was refining. They went to the other rooms multiple times to gather more data. Think like 'training data' for AI.
Cold Harbor was the test. That Innie Gemma was just about to pass the test before Outie Mark showed up was already showing they'd succeeded. If the test was for success, they achieved success. They wouldn't need to test it again if Outie Mark hadn't interfered. Even if they were planning on testing it with Gemma again, Drummond clearly already knew he could beat up Mark and kill him. Marks only sin was trying to get in a door, and Drummond decided that was enough for a death sentence. Which tells me they were already done with Mark.
Edit: I forgot to mention this. Lumon told us they were going to kill Gemma. They goat sacrifice was to be buried with a woman. Were there any other women the show told us were going to be killed? Not that I heard of
So I also thought the other rooms were gathering data for Mark. For example you put Gemma in the dentist room then give the data to Mark. Mark then refines the data until Gemma "perfects" the room.
But from what we see if Cold Harbor, Gemma doesn't go in until it's done.
Now it is possible that Cold Harbor is the final test. If Gemma can "solve" Cold Harbor without refinement, she can "solve" anything.
Of course if Mark can disrupt the test and convince Gemma to go with him, perhaps the test or overall process itself is flawed. Gemma as Ms Casey was surely one of the first tests to confirm that Gemma would not be swayed by Mark. Yet here she clearly is.
The "Fuck" from Jame Eagan may not just be the appearance of Mark and his meddling, but the realization that the entire experiment is flawed.
We know Kier/Lumon/Jame stole from Cobel. It's possible they only now realized how unqualified they are.
But of course all this rests on the idea that Cold Harbor only had one solution and one test, which seems odd.
I added an edit to my post you replied to: Lumon told us they were going to kill Gemma within a few minutes/hours. The goat sacrifice Drummond said was to be buried with a woman to lead her spirit to Keir. Were there any other women the show told us were going to be killed? Not that I heard of.
Oh I completely agree. I think Lumon had every intention of killing Gemma. I think Drummond knew that. But I just find it so odd given their other behavior.