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I am so fed up with some of our American peers trying to posture their ideology online by being uppity with Bernie and AOC's work in the states.
They are actively engaging with large amounts of Americans all over inviting them to be more combative against billionaires, bloody American leftists should be utilising this moment to drive as many in those pockets even further left.
I am confident the supermajority of us completely disagree with most of Bernies foreign policies, from the illegal bombing of Yugoslavia to supporting the existence of Israel, we do not need to agree with them to utilise the moment they are creating to garner more support.
We are in unusual times and more people every day are beginning to realise the apparatus of their government is falsely presented as reliable, their checks and balances are clearly purchasable thanks to the way Elon has chosen to operate as of late. They also understand that their country, unless change comes around, is always 4 years away from being like this again, since the dems will. not. change. Most people know this new makeover the democrats are peddling around is just neoliberalism again.
Falling to puritan culture right now will get us nowhere and would be the ultimate shame, American leftists need to seriously begin siphoning off this movement Bernie and AOC are making to further left wing foundations because right now a healthy amount of people have finally realised that not just the fact that they cannot rely on the two party system, but that there are enough people discontent with both options to consent the existence of a third party.
This is a moment in history where the left need to grab hold of power and not let go, enough with this purity test garbage, there are bigger problems.
If I am a dipshit, someone tell me why because I literally cannot see why now is the time to not make use of what we can. Americans have had a planned economy before and had their knee on billionaires necks back last century clearly it's possible for a transitional socialist America to exist. Why am I stupid? Why are some online leftists engaging with the public with such an uppity manor in regard to this moment?
Bernie is a zionist, he thinks the only issue is netanyahu...which is remotely not true. This is coming from someone who cast the only vote of his life for him and embarrassingly convinced others to do so to. Also gave money to him and now I want a refund. Bernie just gives up to the DNC at the slightest hint of adversity and he is an imperialist. That latter part is unforgivable. Being antiimperialist is a minimum requirement and I don't care about the imperial core more each day. I don't care if people backing a genocide get Healthcare. Sorry
Edit: I do want to add that if they united with the downtrodden of the world, then I want them to share all the good things in the world. But until then.
Comrade Jones put it nicely into a metaphor
You're right, during this important moment they are sinisterly conflating all the sins of the apparatus towards singular individuals, they're trying to pull the same "denazification" trick the Nazis did in Europe after the war to give itself a friendlier makeover. I mentioned it somewhere else, but truly I think I've just been getting in my own head, so thank you for also slapping some sense into me <3
Every word you said was true, thanks again <3
For sure, I like lemmygrad because it's very open to learning and I have changed a lot of my opinions here too. Thanks for operating in good faith.