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[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Sent you a message after clicking on your username on the post I got banned on, just to see if it reaches you.

I know Belgium isn't socialist, we're rather social democratic.

There's also market socialism which doesn't require public ownership, just that the workers own the company. Something like Huawei.

But the end result. We have a median net wealth of 250k euros per adult. I'm quite happy about that.

We have some nationalised stuff. Our commuting train company, post company, Bank and insurance, bus transport, télécommunications company. Infrabel.

The government plays a major role in our lives but they are still liberal.

They just tax and transfer. 45% of the GDP is tax revenue. Belgians are doing just fine.

Owning key industries is useful, like the french with their nuclear reactors. But you as employee it's better to have private options as well when it comes to employment.

Like in Cuba they have 1 employer. The government. Sure, the doctors get paid the most in the country, but still they flee to other Latin American countries so that they can fund their family in a luxurious housing unit in Havana.

This is because there's more competition to buy the doctors their services in those other Spanish speaking countries in the Americas.

Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike socialist economic stuff, if it's used properly.

I despise the censorship.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Saying Belgium is "more Socialist" is clearly wrong, though. It's a Capitalist country, China is Socialist.

Cooperatives are not "socialism," they exist in a broader economy. China has a Socialist Market Economy, it has cooperatives and whatnot but that doesn't define their system, it's the public sector.

All countries have public and private sectors. Belgium's public sector is subservient to its private sector, though, the private sector is made up of large firms and is the driving aspect of the economy. It is the opposite in China, hence my point.

There is nothing inherently better about having a private option. Cuba has a private sector as well, though it is subservient to the public. That isn't why they have lower wages, though, it's because of brutal embargoes.

Everyone censors, in different ways, that which goes against their interests.

[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

With the market cap of their SOE's, they have a broader impact on their economy. Sure, china is the most socialist relevant country in the world as of now.

Censorship can be ranked like anything else can.

https://rsf.org/en/index like they are trying to do.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Wanpieserino@lemm.ee 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

RSF was just an example to show that such a ranking exists. Removing conflict of interest and the ability to censor will be what's needed in order to have real unguided public opinion.

That's difficult to achieve.

The major thing to think about are things like CP, obviously that needs to be removed from existence.

So there's positives to control, but nobody does anything for free.

Like here at Lemmy, I assume an instance creator of a popular instance will be able to be bought by companies or politicians.

Like Musk just bought twitter, lots of newspaper companies are owned by oligarchs. Other sources of news are owned by governments.

There's always a conflict of interest.

It's difficult to get away from.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 days ago

A ranking only exists for propaganda purposes, though, that's why it's Western Government-Funded.

As for Lemmy and an instance creator being "bought," it could happen, sure, but it hasn't, and moreover such an instance can be defederated from.