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[–] Draces@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Are you suggesting I equated the two? It seems you're the one relating the two. You're comment seems irrelevant to the point I'm making. I apologize if it I didn't make it clear: I'm anti tankie, not pro capitalist

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Pretty much sums up your entire philosophy and why no one takes tankies seriously.

Per your original comment, yes. Pro communist tankies aren't the same as socialists. Wish more people wouldn't make that equation.

It'd be like me saying that liberals are just MAGAts, when you clearly have different liberal factions like centrists and Social Democrats, and conservative factions like libertarians and fascists.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, wanting the destruction of America is a tankie belief. Socialism doesn't preclude the rehabilitation of America. I don't think you're following your own argument here. Are you trying to say all socialist call for the destruction of America? Cause that's not foundational to socialism. You seem confused

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Socialism doesn't preclude the rehabilitation of America.

You and I agree on this. Abandoning capitalism doesn't mean America needs to be destroyed, and adopting socialism doesn't mean America can't be rehabilitated.

I don't think you're following your own argument here.

Your original claim refuted the view of the Original Commenter (OC) who thought capitalism always wins, or seeks to concentrate wealth and therefore power in the hands of the few despite the needs of the many. I don't want to assume what your views on capitalism are. Do you think we should keep it as an organization of the economy? Or are there better alternatives? Regulation on capitalism is not a solution imo. As we've seen with Trump and Bush, politicians can be bought out to represent corporate interests, and can install anti-regulation pundits to undermine progress.

Are you trying to say all socialist call for the destruction of America?

Quite the opposite. I'm saying I think you say all socialists call for the destruction of America because from how you've presented yourself, you don't recognize the variation in political philosophy on the left. My first comment to you tried to illuminate this variation by refuting your worldview that authoritarian, tankie communism applies to all forms of leftist ideologies, when there are others that don't include such levels of authority.

I'm not trying to argue. I'm trying to educate.

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You probably shouldn't try to educate when you don't know what's going on.

who thought capitalism always wins

Yep I refuted that with multiple examples

or seeks to concentrate wealth and therefore power in the hands of the few despite the needs of the many

Nope, I said nothing about concentrating wealth. That's all you right now. Please stop trying to put words in my mouth. It's very weird.

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What do you think it means for capitalism to win?

[–] Draces@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

CAPITAL ALWAYS WINS

Not capitalism. Seriously go reread this thread. You are having your own little conversation right now