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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago (5 children)

K. Not talking about liberals in theory. I’m speaking of the self-identifying liberals as they exist in the world today. An absolute menace.

[–] FlyingSpaceCow@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

"self-identifying liberals as they exist in the world today"

The world is a big place. Not sure if you mean "liberal" in the US context, "Liberal" as in the Canadian political party. "Neo-liberal" as in Economic position of Friedman economics, etc...

Leftist is also a relative term and isn't very useful. You likely believe in important structural reforms surrounding minimum wage (perhaps UBI), environmental protection, universal affordable/accessible healthcare, strict banking regulation, drastic progressive taxation, harsh penalties for white collar crime, etc... But "left" of what, I doubt youre pushing for authoritarianism or communism?

My point is there are literally Nazis we are fighting right now. Maybe stop with the infighting as a result of ambiguous labels.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It’s not infighting. Liberals are reactionaries trying to return to a status quo they enjoyed. Leftists want to move forward to build an equitable world. Two completely opposing goals.

But go on with your obfuscation.

[–] FlyingSpaceCow@lemmy.ca 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You're fighting me for some reason (a self described liberal), who also wants to move the world forward to build an equitable world. By your definition I might be a leftist, but I (and others) don't identify with that label.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world -2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Liberals will give a pass to Nazis, so long as they call themselves a Democrat. Not interested in allying to build that kind of world.

[–] FlyingSpaceCow@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Well I don't give passes to Nazis (and the world is a bigger place than just the US). I guess I'll just vote in favour of policies that we both support, rally against policies and parties that we both hate, and continue to advocate for a more equitable world.

You might not call me an ally, but I'll call you one. (at least based on our limited interaction)

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