I'm just not sure what utility this has for a traveler. You don't need NFTs to implement transferrable plane tickets, though this does seem to try to ensure that the airline(?) gets a cut of any sales between passengers. It's the same pattern every time with NFTs, the only thing they seem to do is complicate matters while attempting to make a market out of thin air and take a cut of any related transactions.

No major US airline allows passengers to transfer tickets, and I don't think it's because they lack the technology to do so and NFTs would fill the void. If they did do this and it was possible to buy and sell plane tickets on an open blockchain based market, couldn't one just buy all of the tickets for popular flights and sell them at a markup?

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

You know a guy who first saw the new fangled automobiles once said 'That's all well and good, but where do you attach the horse?'

You don't NEED the internet, or digital transactions, or credit cards, or any of the other dozens of technological advancements in wealth management that have come about since the 50s either but they exist and make everyone's lives easier

Tickets as NFTs are a great idea because it absolutely prevents overbooking. Did you ever even consider that? Can't mint more NFTs than the plane has seats

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

interesting, around here we do it with numbers seats. if you give each seat a specific number turns out you can match that with numbered tickets. somehow airlines don't make tickets with numbers that don't match with any seats. insane tech.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

How magnificently naive if you think that's how it happens nowadays...

https://www.getgoing.com/blog/why-do-airlines-overbook/

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

way to miss the point. literally everyone knows that they overbook. that's not because they're not using nfts. it's because they want to overbook. you said nfts would prevent overbooking. I say you can just prevent overbooking by not overbooking. it has nothing to do with nfts.

[–] bilb@lem.monster 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You know a guy who first saw the new fangled automobiles once said 'That's all well and good, but where do you attach the horse?'

Sure, but this is not a positive argument for your position. This does not mean that everything with doubters is, in fact, good and misunderstood.

Tickets as NFTs are a great idea because it absolutely prevents overbooking. Did you ever even consider that? Can't mint more NFTs than the plane has seats

You can prevent overbooking without blockchain/NFTs. Airlines overbook because they want to, and presumably they would still want to do so if they adopted NFT tickets. There is nothing about using blockchain that would prevent this, they would just mint more NFTs than there are seats for each flight with the hope/expectation that a few ticket holders would not show up.

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sure, but this is not a positive argument for your position.

So now you're just going to discount the time I spent setting you up several use cases?

You can prevent overbooking without blockchain/NFTs. Airlines overbook because they want to,

And the reason for their overbooking, maximum profit, would be achieved seamlessly with a blockchain based ticketing system as there is no human input lag that causes double booking

You keep arguing that there are other ways of doing the things that the programatic nature of NFT contracts offer but NONE of them provide it all in one ridiculously transparent, unfalsifiable open source way that can be literally implemented on every platform

That's why I used the car and the horse example, you are the one saying: "Yes we already have horses already, why do we need a car? And how would a horse even USE a car you silly billy?"

The really sad thing is I'm waiting for a moment of realization from you that it is blatantly clear you are incapable of achieving. Pretending to be open minded is intellectually dishonest

[–] bilb@lem.monster 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

So now you’re just going to discount the time I spent setting you up several use cases?

I didn't thoughtlessly discount anything, I'm just saying that while "some people didn't see how cars could be useful" is true, it does not mean that everything that has doubters is actually a misunderstood wonder. Plenty of things with fervent true believers that have been supposed to change everything were, in fact, duds.

And the reason for their overbooking, maximum profit, would be achieved seamlessly with a blockchain based ticketing system as there is no human input lag that causes double booking

Human input lag is not generally the cause of overbooking. The overbooking is intentional. NFTs have no unique ability to prevent it. This is not a tech problem, and so it cannot be solved by tech. I'm open to the possibility that airline tickets are just a bad example, of course, and it wasn't even an example you presented.

You keep arguing that there are other ways of doing the things that the programatic nature of NFT contracts offer but NONE of them provide it all in one ridiculously transparent, unfalsifiable open source way that can be literally implemented on every platform

This is all rather vague. The benefits are not obvious, so you need to be more specific.

That’s why I used the car and the horse example, you are the one saying: “Yes we already have horses already, why do we need a car? And how would a horse even USE a car you silly billy?”

You might be the one who is saying "the hyperloop will change travel forever!" Everything you're writing seems like vague motivated reasoning presupposing that NFTs are the solution to problems that you don't even seem to understand.

The really sad thing is I’m waiting for a moment of realization from you that it is blatantly clear you are incapable of achieving. Pretending to be open minded is intellectually dishonest

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[–] uranibaba@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The most be something I don’t understand. Why would I buy flight tickets from a third party? Is there a market for this?

[–] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

If you book through a travel agency or website, you are already buying 3rd party

NFTs would prevent 3rd parties from overselling flights (this is a big problem actually and is borderline fraud)