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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by lwadmin@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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Hey everyone, so as I'm sure everyone is aware Lemmy.World has been experiencing several outages throughout the last few days.

We have been investigating the root cause of these outages but believe that they are related to our current hosting provider (Hetzner) blocking access from ClouldFlare as (we think) they believe that our CDN is a DDoS'er, and is causing these disconnects to our backend server, problematic for sure.

We've opened support tickets with our current provider and are awaiting a response. We have no issue with being as transparent as possible with downtime. Anyone that is curious, can feel free to check out https://status.lemmy.world and https://dash.lemmy.world for up to the minute outage information. We are also looking into other fediverse friendly methods of posting status and outage updates

In the meantime, we are evaluating alternative hosting options and solutions to provide a high level of reliability to you, our users. Really, we want to say thanks to everyone for soldiering through all our technical growing pains.

Cheers

LW Infra Team

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[-] BellaDonna@mujico.org 25 points 1 year ago

Let me be real. I never noticed outages stopping. It feels like it's daily, I'm used to it, but I think it happens so often that lemmy.world has lost its growth opportunity, and we alienated the normies. I'm still going to stay on Lemmy, and I believe you're doing the best you can, but we lost for the time being, the migration to Lemmy from Reddit is stunted.

[-] danielton@lemmy.world 64 points 1 year ago

It didn't help that almost every other general purpose instance blocked sign-ups in June and early July either, or required an essay on the application. Lemmy.world was the only one that was even trying at all, and I will commend them for that.

Hopefully things will get better by the next time spez screws up. Because there will be a next time.

[-] gabe@literature.cafe 11 points 1 year ago

Next time the lemmy join page needs to be improved so people can spread and don't try to centralize into a single instance and break the purpose of lemmy in the first place.

[-] danielton@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

Sure, but to be fair, there weren't really many general-purpose instances that were accepting sign-ups from anybody when the Reddit bullshit went down in June. That's part of why lemmy.world got as big as it did.

Most people who ended up on Squabblr and Discuit instead went there because they didn't have to write an essay to join or try to find a server that was accepting sign-ups and wasn't down a lot.

[-] gsa32@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.world itself is bigger than Squabblr and Discuit combined

[-] danielton@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I didn't say most people ended up on Squabblr or Discuit.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

Squabblr and Discuit

Discuit is a place where 4142 people get together to find cool stuff and discuss things.

Squabblr doesn't have a count of active users (33k registered users)

I know we are low on the numbers, but still a bit higher than them.

[-] danielton@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

OK, but I didn't say more people ended up there than here. I was just stating the main reason people chose them over Lemmy.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

To be honest, with such low numbers, I guess after a while they just came to Lemmy once instances were a bit more stable or went something else altogether

[-] danielton@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Squabblr decided to become a "Free Speech" platform and remove rules against LGBT hate speech, so they shot themselves in the foot. Almost everybody who was active on Squabblr moved to Discuit, but even Discuit has nowhere near the activity of Lemmy and kbin.

[-] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting

[-] danielton@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I had accounts on both Squabblr and Discuit and left Squabblr when the rules changed. Jayclees, the owner, fired the entire admin team when they protested the rule changes.

I don't know how Discuit will compare, but it's mainly Squabblr refugees who think the fediverse is too confusing.

[-] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 9 points 1 year ago

Partly due to the fact..... lemmy itself, basically has no moderation or administration features at all....

So, the only way to assist with that issue, is stricter enforcement up-front.

Besides, if someone doesn't wanna take the time to have a verified email, and literally type 49 when registering an application.... I really don't wanna take the time to worry about having to potentially worry about them being spammers/etc.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_ZOD_RUNES@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

We shouldn't be trying to grow a single instance. That defeats the whole point of Lemmy. I started on Lemmy world and switched once I got fed up with the constant connection issues. Plus, Lemmy world blocked piracy communities so fuck that. I'm happy that I am able to quickly create an account on another instance.

[-] xtremeownage@lemmyonline.com 0 points 1 year ago

I never noticed outages stopping

I am in the same boat. If it were not for these posts, I'd have never noticed lemmy world was down.

If I post to, or put a comment on something from lemmy world, it will just federate over when it's back online.

If someone posts to something on lemmy world, it will eventually federate over my way.

But, hey, everyone is gonna fuss when they decided to put all of their eggs in one basket and now, that one basket gets targeted. (metaphor for lemmy world.)