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I'm 30 years old (soon to be 31). I'm a new trans woman (still working through how I might accept it and see myself). I'm unsure how far I should go. I've spoken at some length on other communities about what it feels like to be "ugly and masc". I realize feeling like I can't "pass" as a fem is partly due to deeply rooted transphobia. I have what most older men have: masculine distribution of fat (bit of a belly), hairy everywhere, fears of balding (so far not yet), deepish voice, etc.

If I had no friends or family, I'd probably just go all in: hormone therapies, voice training, surgeries, etc. But I feel like I need to pass in front of my immediate family since I'm sure I wouldn't be accepted. I love them, but they wouldn't get it.

I don't know how far I should go with transitioning. I am currently considering growing out my hair, shaving, and trying to do exercises that conform my body to a more stereotypical feminine shape. Is there a lot of risk in hormone therapies and voice training? Is it hard to go "boy mode" after the fact? What about being 30+ years old and starting it? Should I just accept I'll never pass?

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[โ€“] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Woah I thought that was going to be the biggest factor. I had no idea it was so cost effective.

[โ€“] Helen@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wait until you start looking for clothes ๐Ÿ˜†

[โ€“] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Trying to gauge how bad electrolysis price this is: is $100/hr a lot for it?

[โ€“] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

That seems about right! I currently get about 1 hour a week on the genital region in prep for vaginoplasty (some weeks I double up, so 2 x 1 hour sessions in a week).

[โ€“] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Okay, great to hear! Knowing i wont be getting price-gouged is good.

Does it generally take the whole hour for that one area, even after its been thinned down by previous sessions?

[โ€“] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I haven't seen full clearance even with an hour once a week, and even with thinning. There is progress, but it's not like laser where there is no hair for a while, it's more like there's always hair to zap for the whole hour (some of it new since last session, but most of it was there last session). After a month or two there is more thinning and I'm seeing more clearance - that is nice because the zaps are not as clustered (it can get really painful when many follicles are zapped in the same area).

[โ€“] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Okay, i can see how that can add up quickly now. My goals are completely hairless genitals, "undercarriage", and chest, slowly expanding to full body over time (everything neck down). This is probably going to take a good couple of years I'm starting to think (not discouraged tho! I want it done and plan in scheduling an appointment/consultation soon!)

[โ€“] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I went with laser first and I'm pretty happy with the results - face, arms, legs, belly, chest, etc. I would say my dysphoria was worst for the face, then chest and belly hair were second. Shaving arms and legs are sorta normal for cis women so even though that makes me feel gross, it's not too bad.

I'll probably need electrolysis to finish up persistent patches on my face, but it will be a lot less than without laser. Laser overall is less painful for me than electrolysis, esp. 1 hour sessions ๐Ÿ’€

That said, laser isn't as permanent and electrolysis is definitely better if you can handle it. I just wanted to minimize my electrolysis as much as possible, and it's sorta required for the surgery (laser is too slow and weak on the genital region to get sufficient hair loss, electrolysis is more reliable of a method for permanent removal, too).

[โ€“] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Face doesn't bug me nearly as much as chest/nether regions tbh. I've had a thick beard for years, but i know once i finally shave it off it'll bug me a lot more when it regrows. (Edit: and it will be significantly harder to remain stealthy when its gone)

Chest grows thick enough that it genuinely affects how clothes fit my body and just feels miserable. Nether regions its irritating and scratchy and makes my thighs feel gross.

[โ€“] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

ah, interesting - I barely had any hair on my chest or legs to start with, so that might be part of the difference - I basically had a small patch on my sternum that I didn't really notice until after I transitioned (and then it bothered me immensely, despite being thin and whispy). I always disliked my beard, it felt unclean and like having pubes on my face - not shaving was like the ultimate giving up on my self-care, and was the start of a particularly bad period for me. So shaving it resumed immediately and my sensitivity became rather extreme, beard shadow or its absence had a pretty significant impact on my mood.

[โ€“] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 5 days ago

Yeah, the center of my chest it was thick enough i couldn't see my bare skin through it.

My beard does bug me still, and sideburns drive me batshit crazy (giant head + thick sideburns + glasses + headphones = PRESSURE!!), but its relatively manageable for me.

It does still depress me though; the main reason i grew it was giving up on constant shaving, but i also unfortunately learned that a beard makes me significantly more approachable as a person. As in, i stopped noticing people skittering away from me in stores โ˜น๏ธ

Its also in my picture for multiple forms of work ID cards/badges.

HRT is cheap, relatively speaking. Just remember that you also need to get frequent blood tests. There can be very small side effects depending on your specific treatment and medical history, so doctors will want to make sure things are kept in check. I'm on spiro and a marathon runner, so I also need to watch potassium, for instance.

The real expense is laser/electrolysis, and eventually surgery if you decide that's the right path for you. I personally can't wait to get all the testosterone poisoning gone, but I know it will take time and planning. And it will be worth it!