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[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why is literally nothing equivalent to None? Is it because None is the default value of an optional parameter? (If so why oh why is it optional)

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Because nothing isn't something, and something is true. It's base Boolean logic where everything is either true or false. Null/nothing is false.

It's a weird way to think about conditionals, but it makes sense when you use them in real examples. In my case, I use them like this when I need to make sure that a variable has a value. So I can do something like

If(variable){do things with the variable}else{do stuff when the variable doesn't exist}

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I understand that, it makes sense. But why does it not throw an error? The parameter is missing after all.

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Actually the explanation is wrong.

not()

is actually

not ()

not is a keyword not a function.

Boolean of empty tuple is False and then not negates it.

I explained it better here:

https://lemm.ee/post/61594443/19783421

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

That makes a lot more sense, thanks I did see in the syntax highlighting that it was a keyword but forgot that none of them took parameters.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

No it's not, "" (a null/empty string) is the parameter. Not every function needs a parameter to be valid, and negation is one of them. Negating nothing is something, so "not()" = "not(null)" = "not(false)" = "true"