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This is going to be nice. Good first step.

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 62 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Yeah let me know when I can install mainline Linux.

Definitely a step in the right direction, but the fact that android uses the Linux kernel but still manufacturers keep so much proprietary... It kills me

[–] mikey@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago (3 children)

I mean... This is kinda close. The "Linux Terminal" app is running a full Debian install in a KVM VM. On the newest version of the app (like on Android beta or on GrapheneOS), you even have a full GUI that you can use.

In theory, we should be able to boot any mainline Linux distro in a VM, if someone writes an app for it, as AVF (Android Virtualization Framework) is just a wrapper around Linux KVM with some restrictions. (for now the built-in app only supports Debian)

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 3 points 3 days ago

It reminds me Linux in chromeOS. Do apps use Wayland or X?

[–] iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"full debian install"...not sure I'd call it that. Seems apt repo is missing any chances of adding DE related packages. So maybe not full blown debian. It might have a limited repo.

[–] mikey@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago

Are you sure you're talking about the Linux Terminal app that's available in developer options and not Termux? For me, all Gnome things and Xfce things are present in the repos (and it's using the deb.debian.org default Debian repos, so it makes sense)

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Can I plug in an hdmi cable/keyboard/mouse and use it like a desktop and is there some way I can mount the android storage? (Eg can I get access to docs/pics/downloads)

[–] mikey@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

On Pixel 8 and above, you can plug in external displays, but it will only mirror your phone screen. Supposedly, Android 16 will allow you to "extend" the screen, ie. treat it as a separate screen. Also, the GUI stuff for the Linux Terminal will only drop in Android 16, so yeah, I'm stoked for that release.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 2 points 4 days ago

Sounds awesome!

[–] DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They're doing this because they want to switch chrome to be android based, and they want to have desktop apps available right away since chrome doesn't have much.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 days ago

Not just that - modern Androids compile apps in a VM these days to reduce the attack surface of the compiler. You can also push other services into VMs that support the main image. You could even push some vendor drivers into VMs and help keep the main kernel less of a vendor fork fest.

[–] coolmojo@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

It depends of your definition of mainline Linux. You can install Linux on your phone with thanks to postmarketOS Of course only if your phone is supported.

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Im not sure what you mean, like, run android on mainline linux? if that is the case you already can. Not on all devices, but I think the pixel can run mainline kernel, I know ofc you can run androidx86 on mainline, if you mean via terminal I think you can sideload mainline. At least, if you compile your own rom you absolutely would be able to.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He clearly means the opposite

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

it's not clear at all what he means.