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The teens claimed CBP targeted them because they hadn’t booked hotels for their entire stay in Hawaii.

“They found it suspicious that we hadn’t fully booked our accommodations for the entire five weeks in Hawaii,” Pohl said. “We wanted to travel spontaneously. Just like we had done in Thailand and New Zealand.”

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[–] FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah yes, the hive mind of all non US citizens sharing the same knowledge.

[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Well yeah, there are two types of people in the world: Americans and Not-Americans. So these Not-American teenagers would certainly be fully aware of the current political climate in America.

[–] kowcop@aussie.zone 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Which bit are you objecting to? If you don’t believe that the US is being portrayed by every news agency (worldwide) as a dumpster fire, you are deluded

[–] remon@ani.social 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You'd be surpised by how many people don't follow international news.

[–] mmddmm@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

don’t follow international news

... don't use social media, and don't talk to anybody that does those things (because it's basically impossible for it to not enter normal conversation).

Yeah, there certainly exist some people like this. But I doubt they are the ones booking international trips.

[–] remon@ani.social 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

… don’t use social media, and don’t talk to anybody that does those things (because it’s basically impossible for it to not enter normal conversation).

Oh, they definitly on social media and talk to people. But that still doesn't mean you're exposed to US politics. People have their own domestic politics to talk about. What happens in the US really isn't as relevant to the daily life of the average foreigner as you might think.

[–] angrystego@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I wonder where you're from. In the parts of Europe I know it seems to be everywhere, all the media, all the information channels, just inescapable. And it's not US politics, it's international politics - tariffs, visas, research financing, USAID, military alliances, new territory ambitions - these are not US internal politics, it influences other countries in a massive way.

[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

it seems to be everywhere

Only if you're terminally online.

But for the people that get their news from TV and printed newspaper .. or maybe facebook, US poltics is a sidenote. The sports segments are usually twice as long as the international politics segment, for example. Sure, they probably heard about the tarrifs in some form, but a lot of people just don't care about that.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s not just in the news. My husband is a lawyer. He was on a training conference today. Part of it was about how the rule of law needs to be followed and society only works when it is. They then discussed how important it was to upkeep that using America as an example of a government no longer following rule of law. This wasn’t internet memes. This was senior legal minds discussing how American democracy is failing.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Whilst you're absolutelly right that not everybody outside the US follows what's going on in the US, it makes sense to expect that the universe of people who have the money and inclination to go spend a whole month travelling in the US AND are not at all aware of what's going on in the US, is miniscule - if you're a middle class person in a wealthy enough country (hence you can afford the plane ticket and the costs of 1 month worth of accomodation and travelling around the US), who can speak English and who is interested in the US that you want to spending a whole month travelling there, you're almost certainly paying attention to all things America and since what's has been popping up in the news all over the World, you're almost certainly aware of that.

I mean, I can understand how poor people in Latin American who would want to immigrate to the US by walking all the way there might not be up to date with what's going on in the US or at least fully understand the implications, but that doesn't make sense for actual European tourists who can afford to and chose to fly there and spend an whole month there.

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 1 day ago

I get that. My point is that in arenas that have usually nothing to do with the USA, it's being talked about as fact that the USA is in a failed state at the moment.

It doesn't have the dramatics of things like 9/11 that changed the world irrevocably. However, it's a similar feeling for those not in the USA. The world has changed and won't be the same. You don't have to follow the news to be aware.