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To get terminology out of the way, they are building towards Communism through Socialism, ie an economy where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy. In other words, large firms and key industries are overwhelmingly publicly owned, so the Bourgeoisie doesn't have power over the state.
Now that terms are out of the way, you're correct, China does have billionaires. Even though that number is decreasing in recent years while working class purchasing power and wages are rising, that isn't enough of an answer as to why they still exist. Billionaires represent a contradiction the CPC must resolve. But how is the best way to go about that? What time scale? The CPC's role is to gradually resolve contradictions within Socialism in favor of the Proletariat in any inter-class dispute. They have to erase the foundations for billionaires, not the billionaires themselves.
I recommend checking out China Has Billionaires. The important thing to understand is that contradictions exist in all systems, and it is the process of working out these contradictions that provides room for advancement.
you know I've been ignoring pretty much everything you say after you said that NK is a good country
Only shitlibs would proudly announce that they stick their fingers in their ears
do you think NK is a good country?
Do you think proudly announcing that you refuse to engage with anything that challenges your beliefs makes you look good?
do you think NK is a good country?
Do you think proudly announcing that you refuse to engage with anything that challenges your beliefs makes you look good?
you do think NK is a good country
Do you think proudly announcing that you refuse to engage with anything that challenges your beliefs makes you look good?
I'm blocking you for being a nusance
Only shitlibs would proudly announce that they stick their fingers in their ears
do you think NK is a good country?
It's better than a capitalist country would be under the same circumstances
Feel free to keep letting me ratio you then 👍
Also, pretty sure you're referring to me talking about the USSR, not the DPRK, so you can't even get your talking points straight.
They’re the same picture.
Fair, I still have a lot of learning to do about Korea. I'm familiar with the basics of Japanese Imperialism, US intervention post-World War II, and then the general outline of the Korean War (including the devastation it brought on the Korean people) but beyond that I'm not very well-versed. It's an area I'd like to study further.
https://archive.org/details/ellen-bruno-and-jacques-hersh-socialist-korea-a-case-study-in-the-strategy-of-ec
Thanks, comrade!
Its 2025. Language has evolved further than 'ratio'
Rhetorically and factually trounce, then? Destroy, in the marketplace of ideas? What term would you prefer to describe your use as a springboard for me to bounce pro-Marxist ideas off of?
Wow, that's a speed-blitz of US State Department lines on their geopolitical adversaries, with homophobia sprinkled on top. Each line you casually threw out requires lengthy response, so I will address them with links to comments I've written elsewhere and resources I like.
You mischaracterize it as a general movement for "freedom," and make it one-sided. The truth is that the protests were originally against Reform and Opening Up, the protestors were Maoists. Later, the US-sponsored student leaders tried to spin it into a pro-liberalism protest, and the student leaders later admitted to trying to provoke bloodshed:
Further still, the character of what happened on June 4th, 1989 is misrepresented, which I elaborate on here. Essentially, the West reports that 10,000 unarmed students were killed on Tian'anmen square despite no evidence beyond one British Diplomat who was confirmed to have left the square before the students left.
What really happened, is that riots broke out in Beijing all over the city, including lynchings of unarmed PLA members, resulting in skirmishes and a total death toll in the hundreds, which is backed up by many, many sources. The West lies because they wanted to take advantage of a real protest to undermine the legitimacy of the CPC. I recommend Another View of Tiananmen. Further, this reading list goes over the protests in far more depth, including the background, events on June 4th, and the Western mythologizing of it.
I recommend reading the actual UN Report, as well as China's response. Claims of genocide specifically all circle back to Adrian Zenz, a member of the State Department propaganda outlet "Victims of Communism." He has been caught lying and fabricating evidence, is a Christian Nationalist that believes China is the antichrist, and is literally paid to lie about China, distorting and twisting real problems specifically to give them the right propagandistic zeal. I also recommend The Xinjiang Atrocity Propaganda Blitz. Further, this resource list is helpful for looking more in-depth on the subject.
Not sure what you mean, here. Living standards have been rapidly rising under the direction of the CPC. I like The Metamorphosis of Yuangudui to show what the Poverty Eradication Campaign accomplished, as a quick example.
Hong Kong was a British colony, now they are more integrated with China as they always should have been. The people in Hong Kong enjoy their semi-autonomous status. The protests were western-backed (a pattern you'll notice) that twisted an organic movement into one used for Western political gain. The protest never reached mass approval, and the status quo is looked upon favorably. I recommend this reading list for more.
All in all, you are extremely quick to accept whatever narrative is presented to you, dash out all nuance, and accept the stance of "everything and everyone is bad." What does this accomplish? Approval for the status quo. The "neither Washington nor Beijing" crowd invariably serve to legitimize Washington, as equal disapproval ends up surfacing as approval for whichever is the current Hegemon. What option does "picking" nobody leave us with? Our hands tied.
The CPC is by no stretch perfect, but it does play an overall progressive role in the world economy, while the US Empire slaughters millions for profits as it did in Korea, Iraq, Vietnam, Cambodia, and many, many more places. China doesn't post hundreds of millitary bases around the world to terrorize, the US does. China doesn't brutally exploit the Global South, the US does. There's no comparison to be made.
So basically what you’re saying is that you enjoy massacring innocent people.
You got me, it's me, the tankie. I just love tanks, and I just love tankin'.
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I didn't delete your comment, and I made my argument, you're responding to it. Or, rather, you're complaining about your comment being removed in a reply to my argument, without addressing my argument.
I'm not a mod nor an admin, how could I remove your comment?