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[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Harris represented the Democratic party, but conceded numerous Republican talking points like immigration, highlighted that she was a gun owner, and campaigned with the Cheneys. Kamala refused to take a strong stance on Gaza giving little more than lip service to Palestinians and their supporters, rarely talked about ideas like universal healthcare or wealth inequality, and dismissed the general concerns about the economy.

Voters failed, yes. They failed to turn out and prevent the obvious danger of another Trump presidency or were ignorant enough to vote for him. However, the Democratic leadership also failed. They hid the state of Joe Biden from the public until the last minute. They failed to engage their base and, for the third election in a row, boosted a middling candidate over progressive candidates and then relied on negative campaigni against Trump to provide enough of a turnout.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee -2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

i felt the israel thing has much less of effect on voters than you think, maybe in Michigan, but both parties wholely support the genocide, so theres not much issue there. its the constant attack by msm on biden and harris throughout the campaign

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

i felt the israel thing has much less of effect on voters than you think

Ok. I'm sorry you feel that way.

[–] Tja@programming.dev -2 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Every time a progressive candidate has run in a primary they lost. The American public is one Facebook ad away from voting for a face eating Leopard. If they really wanted universal Healthcare they would have voted it by now. Voters failed, the dems run with the candidate that had the most chances of winning. And then the voters failed again. Twice.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

When a progressive candidate runs in a primary, the party itself sabotages them. The party leadership and party-favored candidates lie about the policies. The party prioritizes centrists with their funding.

The American public is one Facebook ad away from voting for a face eating Leopard.

In part, yes. I am arguing that you can't ignore the fact that the democratic party itself paid for that Facebook ad.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

My point is that there's no amount of ads that would make people in Europe vote against universal Healthcare. In the US it seems that people are so ignorant that ad budget determines election outcomes. People don't really want progressive policies, they are content with bread and circus.

[–] theparadox@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

That's an extremely flawed take. Europeans wouldn't vote against universal healthcare because Europe has experienced universal healthcare for decades. It spread throughout Europe in an extremely transformative time - while rebuilding from the destruction of WWII.

Americans are far more isolated than Europeans in many ways, and that also prevents us from truly understanding these kinds of issues. You can visit another country like we visit another state. This lets you experience so much more diversity of ideas than America gets.

Americans are fed lies by everyone around them because the lies let those in power keep power and make more money. We've been slowly drained of our ability to flourish. We spend an increasing amount of effort just surviving. We're stressed and tired of the political turmoil, which lets politicians further strip us of our power.

I won't deny that there are stupid, racist, willfully ignorant people here. I just don't blame them for all of their ignorance. In order to learn, you need to be given the resources and opportunity to do so. Those in power here have worked very hard and spent a lot of money trying to prevent them from getting those things and feeding them lies about an alternate reality that maintains the status quo or further empowers the ruling class.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

obama really broke the minds of conservatives, couldnt accept a half-black, muslim as a president.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 4 hours ago

Conservatives don't participate in democrat primaries, do they?

[–] PyroNeurosis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

But he is a Christian?