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Discord ruined what was left of online forums and so it’s users now deserve the full force of enshittification. It was so easy to join, how come it’s this hard to leave?
"this hill was so easy to walk down, why is it so hard to walk up it?"
It's hard to leave because it's easy to join, and because it has the critical mass of users. Simple as that. It takes a lot to get people to abandon their chats, their friends, their groups, and the years of built-up message history, for an app that likely has fewer users and fewer features.
I don't want more apps, I want to return to ~~monke~~ early 2000s web forums.
no thank you I actually like chatting over a websocket connection instead of having to refresh a page every two minutes
Granted they're not the growing and bustling places they used to be, but there are still both niche and "lifestyle" forums that are alive and stable. Other than this place, one of the latter is where I spend most of my online socializing time.
Mutual hostage taking, you can't leave because everyone is there, and they can't leave because you're there.
Only collective action can be organized to break this social trap. The easiest way is to require the garden's walls pulled down.
But I'd be fine putting down the executive
Yea I saw the writing on the wall years ago. Why do I want a fucking client to talk to mass people. That is a shit format for more than like 6 people in a room.
It's basically an old school chat room at that point.
Exactly, and a terrible informational forum IMO
Where the fuck are we gonna go?
You could go to matrix
I dunno. There’s probably a discord group that discussed it but you are not in it so I guess you won’t ever know.
Element. If you are missing something, talk to all those motivated people doing Discord bots or whatever, they can contribute to Element/Matrix. And it's actually open source, they keep their contributions, contrary to all the work they have done for Discord for free.
Forums. Lemmy. Group Chats.
What does discord do that these dont bar create a barrier for use?
Unlike Forums discord exists.
Voice chat and screen sharing
Matrix?
I've got that in my group chats in Telegram but since we should all be moving to FOSS and decentralization, have you considered setting up Jitsi? It integrates with Matrix too. That already pretty much gets you most discord functionality that people care about.
Like a phone call? Group voice chats? I would have thought tis was built into consoles and services, seems odd that Twitch doesnt have this feature.
I have only ever seen it used as a terrible forum clone where discussion sucks and security is poor.
Yep, or even a watch party (group voice chat with someone sharing his screen). You can't do that on forums or lemmy.
Not sure about twitch, I only use that to watch streams, never to do streams.
IRC is basically all the chat portions of discord.
If you think everyone using the Discord/Slack/Mattermost/Rocketchat/... generation of chat with inline image display and all those features, voice and video chat and screen sharing is ever going to switch to IRC at this point you are simply delusional.
Oh, I don't expect it to happen, I'm just pointing out that it still exists and takes care of some of that functionality. I don't think I've ever seen gifs, videos, or screen sharing implemented in IRC.
Better though because you don't need an account, and can gain a lot of anonymity via an eggdrop or vpshell etc.