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[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Alex Jones on the Patriot Act in 2003

The bill itself is stamped "Confidential - Not for Distribution." Upon reading the analysis and bill, I was stunned by the scientifically crafted tyranny contained in the legislation. The Justice Department Office of Legislative Affairs admits that they had indeed covertly transmitted a copy of the legislation to Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, (R-Il) and the Vice President of the United States, Dick Cheney as well as the executive heads of federal law enforcement agencies.

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SECTION 501 (Expatriation of Terrorists) expands the Bush administration's "enemy combatant" definition to all American citizens who "may" have violated any provision of Section 802 of the first Patriot Act. (Section 802 is the new definition of domestic terrorism, and the definition is "any action that endangers human life that is a violation of any Federal or State law.") Section 501 of the second Patriot Act directly connects to Section 125 of the same act. The Justice Department boldly claims that the incredibly broad Section 802 of the First USA Patriot Act isn't broad enough and that a new, unlimited definition of terrorism is needed.

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SECTION 322 removes Congress from the extradition process and allows officers of the Homeland Security complex to extradite American citizens anywhere they wish. It also allows Homeland Security to secretly take individuals out of foreign countries.

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SECTION 402 is titled "Providing Material Support to Terrorism." The section reads that there is no requirement to show that the individual even had the intent to aid terrorists.

[–] LePoisson@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not gonna click anything from a jesus-is-savior domain but I think it's blatantly obvious Alex Jones is a huckster that peddled supplements and lies.

Occasionally he might have accidentally made a salient point but he has never been and never will be a good source of information. It's ironic his show's name is also what he's doing, fighting a war on information and truth with his bullshit and lies.

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The point is this

“You should know that this is exactly what you pretended to be fighting against all those years.”

Alex Jones has always been a fucking nut, but the beliefs he holds now are antithetical to the beliefs he had then. There was a brief period where he was popular in more left leaning circles because criticism of the Patriot Act and the War in Iraq was not popular, and he was genuinely one of the first and loudest voices.

The concerning this is that he is cheering for things that he would have actively decried then. Before Trump was the nominee, he was not pro Trump. There is something strange with these MAGA cult figures - where their beliefs are subsumed into a devotion to their God figure.