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[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 1 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Ye but like I said, here in the Netherlands, and I think across Europe people will automatically think of jews being sent to extermination camps like Auschwitz. Look at the dutch wikipedia page on deportation, the second paragraph explains that the term could technically be used to for instance describe migrants who are sent back to their country of origin, but it isn't used to describe that, because the term is so very much associated with the Holocaust, and so a different term (uitzetten) is used to avoid this intensely negative association. So you'll understand my confusion when the term directly linked to the worst crime against humanity is here suggested to have a positive connotation. And I don't think the Jews had much of a chance to argue against their deportations.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 2 points 7 hours ago

Ok, looking at that page I understand now. That is not what it means to us. This is the English page

In the anglosphere (UK included, from what I've seen on tv), deportation doesn't have positive connotations, but it has ambiguous connotations. It's a normal word used on the news everyday, and has been for decades. If anything, it has similar connotations to getting a prison sentence - there's even an implication of some kind of wrongdoing on the deportee

With the context of what you linked, it seems like in the Netherlands the word has appropriate weight. But if you say the Nazis deported Jews, people in the US will interpret that to mean you're downplaying or denying the Holocaust. It's the terminology used by neo-Nazis

The terms we would use are forced migration or ethic cleansing, we don't really have a specific word for it until it evolves into full blown genocide