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[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

What do you mean, Kamala would have done the same thing!

  • absolute fucking morons
[–] pulido 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Kamala would have done the same thing.

Democrats have never shown a willingness to challenge Israel on anything.

The "absolute fucking morons" are the ones who thought kamala would be any different.

Maybe Bernie would've done something different, but neo-liberals don't like him.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 2 points 19 minutes ago

Kamala would have pushed for a plan to forcibly relocate everyone in Gaza to random surrounding countries so she could build a resort there? Kamala would have put an AI-generated video of Gazans living in luxury and idolizing gold statues of her? Deported student protesters on valid visas? Trump took a shit on your face and Gaza suffers more now, with zero hope whatsoever for any pushback from this fascist administration who applauds Israel's every step

[–] cogman@lemmy.world -2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

Produce any media where she even hinted at having a different Gaza policy.

Israel started the genocide early after Oct 7, it's not escalated. They're already leveled over 80% of Gaza and destroyed every hospital and piece of infrastructure under Biden.

Tell me, how is that at all different from Trump's current policy?

Edit: for the down voters, I don't care. My point is made by you not being able to do anything other than down vote. You know I'm right and that makes you mad. No media exists which will absolve Kamala on Israel.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

i don't remember hearing Harris say anything about bulldozing Gaza and building a beach resort

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Here's one of her staffers explaining the difference, since the difference is so fucking hard for certain people to comprehend. It wasn't going to be fantastic, but I stand by my statement that only absolute fucking morons think they would have been the same. Because those people can't understand there are shades of awful or the difference between bad, and fucking gone.

That mentality is the textbook definition of cutting your nose off to spite your face. Voting for Kamala was attempting stem the bleeding, and people decided to cut a limb off instead. It's a shame that so many more people are going to suffer for their choice. And I really hope the naked fascism that these people directly contributed to via tacit support (thanks non voters!) isn't as bad as it will be, all because they wanted to play purity politics.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Former staffer that resigned because of the Gaza policy and was not involved in the 2024 election.

From the article, since you didn't bother to read.

Harris has not been the candidate many of us wanted. Her candidacy is historic, but she and the Democratic Party have failed to champion a truly progressive agenda — one needed not only to motivate her base, but to take on the right wing’s increasingly fascist policies and rhetoric. It has been devastating to see Harris refuse to break with Biden on Israel, adopt xenophobic talking points about immigration policy, and campaign alongside hawkish, pro-war Republicans.

And yeah, I 100% agree with the author. Her position is and remains mine. If you'd bother to read the article, you'd see she even supported the uncommitted movement, which guess who the protest voters were?

You are struggling to square away that I have empathy and understand why people couldn't stomach Harris. Stop calling people "morons" because they can't as easily justify genocide as you can.

Also do note that rather than addressing my challenge, you proved my point. Harris had identical Gaza policies to Biden and the only reason to vote for her was the fact that there were some pro Palestinian Democrats. You vote for her not because she's better in Gaza, but out of the hope that members of her caucus could moderate her position.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

Stop calling people “morons” because they can’t as easily justify genocide as you can.

I think it's more regarding their lack of ability to see nuance. If your choices are genocide and genocide lite, yeah, they're both fucking bad, but maybe with lite, we can have more time to effect real change vs Trump, under whom we are guaranteed to see absolutely no change in a positive direction. I'd rather take 1% over 0%.

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That is some heavy copium your on buddy. You might want to step down on your doses before you do permanent damage.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world -3 points 10 hours ago

My position has been rock solid through the entire election. Feel free to look through my past comments.

The only ones coping are you guys that are just becoming aware of genocide because Trump is also supporting it.

Keep getting mad and ignoring anyone who doesn't 100% carry water for Democrats. I'm sure that will continue to be electorially successful.