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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by choroalp@programming.dev to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

(Sorry for bad english not my first language)

I am pretty sure most of us can agree on how bad Meta is and for some reason people are defending Meta.

I think many people is not realising how Threads and Federation with Threads is going to harm the development of Fediverse.

I dont think many people realize how Threads itself is going to harm fediverse. After twitters well known series dumb moves, many people saw this as an opportunity for fediverse to rise. But with Threads, essentially a 1 to 1 copy of twitter, just going to scoop all of that twitter refugees. Not just that but Threads is using fediverse as ready to consume content farm and eventually cause some users to migrate out of fediverse to Threads because "Well i can stay in touch with near circle easly while still being in fediverse" and after getting enough profits they will defederate themselves because there is not enought to gain from at that point. They will suck the life juice out of Fediverse.

Also as you know threads is tightly integrated with Instagram which made many Instagram users dove head first into Threads and this caused Instagram and Threads culture to be identical. And i think you can guess how bad Instagram culture is. Threads is just a breeding ground companies and influencers with high levels of toxicity and homophobia almost instantly. And we dont want this culture to infintirate Fediverse (Right?) More on the culture. Many threads users are going to destroy the thing we have. Fediverse will never get popular as FAANG Platforms whatever we do. Why we are trying to bring Hateful, Censorship oriented Instagram culture to fediverse. Why?

Also no, Threads is not going to contribute to Fediverse in users because why would a user will leave meta's ecosystem and getting into this confusing things about fediverse while they can experience fediverse from Threads? Your average Threads user is not going to care about Fediverse.

We need to defederate from Threads to prevent them from profiting off fediverse. Defederating WILL DO SHIT unlike people says. This will make fediverse read-only to Threads which might emphasize some people to join fediverse to contrubite to it. Defederating essentially take the main point Meta wants with Fediverse. the engagement.

Edit 1: Sorry i was a bit aggresive in the post. Also i reinstalles threads to see how shittie this app is after a bit more maturizing and i already sae a couple scams

Edit 2: DELETED

Edit 3: Nope, Threads community does not fit overall fediverse community and i think we defederate.

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[-] Ryan@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think federating isn't necessarily a bad thing. In the worst case Meta will remove ActivityPub from Threads in the future. Threads federating is an opportunity for regular people to see and understand the Fediverse, and we get to see the more mainstream influencers. If it turns out Threads has malicious intent, defederate and hopefully the backlash will get thread users to migrate to another federated instance.

[-] skrttskrtt911@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The worst case is threads taking the activitypub wheel and making it exactly what they want it to be and letting the rest of us that were here first suck it. There is a 0% chance that meta federating with the rest of us turns out positively for anyone other than meta

[-] Ryan@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They could take control of ActivityPub, but we can always create a fork of it if it does get to that point. We can manage without Meta anyway. And suppose Meta controls ActivityPub, it's still better than the current system where content is locked in a single platform and controlled by solely 1 company.

Although fostering an open social network is not the intent of Meta, Threads indirectly benefits the concept of federation as a whole by contributing content and making it "mainstream".

[-] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 0 points 1 year ago

It won't. They have 30mil people on the app already. That's light-years more then the entire fediverse. The hope is, for meta, is to peal off fediverse users and then close the door behind them leaving the ActivityPub network a ghost town.

[-] Ryan@programming.dev 5 points 1 year ago

Threads is going to peel off users whether or not it federates with us. At least federating means that Threads users can easily switch to a more private Meta-less platform and still access content on Threads.

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They signed up with Threads; do you think they have the slightest concern for privacy?

I don't think these are the users you are looking for.

[-] Ryan@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Privacy was an example. People could migrate for any reason they want; whether it be due to the UI/UX of the app, the annoying IG integration, bad moderation, the algorithm, etc. Like with the case of people leaving Twitter and Reddit, but now you don't lose content and there's a lower barrier of entry.

[-] choroalp@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Your average Threads user has 0 fucks about privacy. I dont think they would care about privacy

[-] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Have you seen the content on threads? Not sure I care to have it in my feed.

[-] Ryan@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

The feed in Threads is quite bad, but I'm pretty sure you can block an instance. I mainly follow content creators or follow updates and announcements for software I use.

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