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Israeli officials have signaled they do not intend to relinquish this territory. These areas, where the military has deployed, are considered “no-go zones” and Palestinians risk being shot if they approach.

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

We wouldn't be fighting with Canada, Greenland, Mexico, Europe, etc.

Immigrants wouldn't be sent to a torture prison for simply disagreeing with Israel.

US universities wouldn't be under attack for "dei" and "antisemitism"

Judges wouldn't have been arrested for not allowing ice arrests in court chambers.

Tariffs wouldn't be destroying the economy.

Doge wouldn't be unconditionally gutting the federal government.

Did you think there was only a single issue you were voting for?

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hmm, all that stuff on the line, and the DNC decided that it was more important to protect Israel and idolize Dick Cheney than to defeat Donald Trump.

Don't worry though, the Democrats are working hard to ensure that Trump's policies face little to no opposition and they even unanimously voted recently to enact an internet censorship bill that Trump stated he would use to silence his online critics, so at least we can find comfort in knowing that they're finding so much common ground with Republicans.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hmm, all that stuff on the line, and the DNC decided that it was more important to protect Israel and idolize Dick Cheney than to defeat Donald Trump.

I love how liberals pretend like it's not their fault for not voting.

[–] piefood@feddit.online 7 points 2 days ago

I love how Democrats pretend it's not their fault for running terrible candidates with awful policies, that people don't want to vote for.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Harris decided she'd rather help Trump get reelected than break with Biden on Israel. It's her fault that she lost an extremely winnable election. She is the one that got Trump elected, more than any voter.

[–] CmdrShepard42@lemm.ee 10 points 2 days ago

Same with Clinton in 2016. The Dems want Trump in office so he can enact all the legislation that they want passed while he takes the heat and use him for fundraising opportunities. It's all a big game to them, which is why they act like little more than controlled opposition. These policies don't affect them they just affect us nobodies.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's literally not what the other person said though. They said there were "limits" to Democrat support for Israel.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works -4 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, you all only give a shit about exactly one thing. We know. Let everything else burn because you have a one track mind.

Frankly we didn't get the chance to know what limits Kamala would have had. But we do know that behind the scenes Biden was trying, albeit unsuccessfully, to moderate Israel. Kamala would likely have at least applied some pressure as well.

Trump wants to turn Gaza into a trump hotel.

You at least had some fucking hope with Kamala.

[–] piefood@feddit.online 9 points 2 days ago

Actually, we know that Biden wasn't trying. They just came out and admitted that. And we didn't have any hope with Kamala, because she was clearly explicit that she was going to continue to support Israel.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Again that is literally not the conversation we're having right now. The other person made a concrete claim and I was challenging that concrete claim; neither of us said anything about the merits or demerits of voting for Harris so there's no reason for you to soapbox about the damn lefties drawing the line at genocide.