The Parti Socialiste ruled France a few years they are often pictured as the "traitors party" since they sided with corporate interest. The actual goverment (from pædo apologists to more classic far right) escaped a no confidence vote thanks to them.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 3 points 4 days ago

Sadly we do not need the russians to fight each other

Oh, I definitely wasn’t saying that. Part of the reason it works is that it’s exploiting existing divisions.

But, from my limited yank’s perspective, it seems like 10 years ago it was "let’s have a party in the street and fuck up the people exploiting all of us." That sounds great. Now it's "let's have the left fuck up the left, they're awful traitors" which is pretty much precisely what's been happening in every other country that's anti-Russia-aligned, all at the same time. And it usually leads, for obvious reasons, to the right taking power after it's gone on long enough.

Fighting the center-left because you hate that they aligned with corporate interests sounds like it makes sense, but if the ultimate end result is someone who is aligned with corporate interests 10 times more so takes power, it starts to look in retrospect like it was counterproductive.

The Parti Socialiste ruled France a few years they are often pictured as the “traitors party” since they sided with corporate interest.

Yeah, I heard the same thing about Biden. Constantly. Even though it was totally imaginary.

Like I say, I have no idea about the internals and I could be totally off base. I'm just basing it on pattern recognition in terms of the broad strokes.