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Do You Understand How Dangerous This Moment Is — How Far We've Drifted? (www.commondreams.org)

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Once the government claims the right to strip anyone of due process, rights cease to be rights and become privileges, granted or revoked at the whim of those in power. That is not a constitutional democracy. That is the scaffolding of fascism.

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[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree, it's basically a team of gunmen forcing a crowd of prisoners. I didn't want to make the metaphor too complicated, but that's exactly what it is

Voting for the lesser of two evils is obeying the gunmen. Meanwhile, others in the group have died of exhaustion, continuing to walk means more will drop

The best thing to do is to all unite as one and take the guns... But you have to act as one. People will get shot, and it might all be for nothing if we don't commit

What we have now is a tense standoff. Part of the group is negotiating with the gunmen to try to get them to shoot someone else, part of the group is making eye contact and getting into position, and the majority is just scared

You can talk about responsibility to the group... I'd agree. But obeying the gunmen isn't the morally superior choice, it just kicks the problem down the road so we can do it again, when everyone is more exhausted and more people have dropped already

[–] Maltese_Liquor@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Hey! I actually agree with everything you said so that's kind of fun for us! The big problem I see is that the people who decided to make a stand in the last election really had to plan to ensure group buy in so there was no real path to success, just moral high ground for those that refused to vote for more of the same.

Assuming that it's not too late at this point we need real leaders with a real plan to get real people behind a movement for change. If the next four years end in a vote that ushers in change with first destabilizing the entire world then I'll happily admit I was wrong but my fear and the fear of most everyone else who voted for Harris despite it being more of the same is that we won't get a chance for real change without a full on coup now that Trump is in control again.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 1 points 8 hours ago

Yeah, well we didn't manage to stop Trump when he wasn't in office, and I squarely blame Democrats for that. Maybe Harris would have been better in the long view, but maybe not...

Yes, Trump and co are going to try to rig the elections. Or more accurately, they're currently trying to rig state elections to work out what will work and what won't

But Trump is his own worst enemy... Well, second worst, after Musk. People are fucking livid with him, and they're about to be a lot more upset when they see empty shelves. People are demanding representatives do something, and Trump's actions haven't even really hit people yet... But they will

We are where we are, the gunmen are shooting people at random. They're demanding we march even faster.

Which is obviously bad, but they're also backing us into a corner. The sheer amount of malicious incompetence means that people are reacting, even diehard maga are starting to wonder if they messed up. Today we even had MTG go for a power grab

It's going to be an interesting summer