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With all the dismal news about America lately, my home, I'm starting to seriously look at where else to move.

Putting aside for now the difficulty of actually immigrating to some countries, I'm curious on the opinions of others (especially people living outside the U.S) on this.

What I'm looking for in a country is, I imagine, similar to many people. I'm trying to find somewhere that will exhibit:

  • Low racism
  • Low sexism
  • Low LGBTQ-phobia
  • Strong laws around food quality and safety
  • Strong laws about environmental protection
  • Strong laws against unethical corporate practices (monopoly, corruption, lobbying, etc)
  • Strong laws for privacy
  • Good treatment of mentally ill, homeless, and impoverished people

Those are the real important things. Of course the nice-to-haves are almost too obvious to be worth listing, low cost of living, strong art and cultural scene, nice environment, and so on.

My actual constraints that might really matter are that I only speak English (and maybe like A1-2 level German). It seems incredibly intimidating to try to find employment somewhere when I can hardly speak the language.

I know nowhere on Earth is perfect, just curious what people may have to suggest. I hope this question isn't too selfish to ask here.

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[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 days ago (23 children)

China is very much not low racism. You will encounter quite a lot of racism especially if you are black. Everyone is different but the racists are far more public about being racist.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 7 points 6 days ago (13 children)

If you are white you get stares and reverse racism until you mess up then real racism. If you’re black you just get racism.

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago (12 children)

That it, generally speaking, false.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Well you obviously haven’t been to or lived in China for any period of time and most likely have an idealistic view of the country. Chinas a great place but being ignorant to its rampant racism is just silly. Because you’re certainly wrong. Waste of time comment.

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. If you are financially stable and can fit within what is considered socially acceptable then it's a great place to live.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

China is a great place no matter your financial status :) You can survive on a lot less than the west. What is socially acceptable in someways in more open than the west too but in others less.

Great place to live and such great people

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Its worth noting I mean as an immigrant who is not ethnically Chinese. It's a tough place to adapt to if you aren't financially stable. Do note that my knowledge comes from the experience of people from Australia.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are you referring to a specific city? The city my family is in can live in very comfortably on $700 a month. That’s why I’m reluctant to agree. If you were specifically thinking of Shanghai or something that would make more sense.

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah I suppose you're right, I've only heard about this regarding Guangdong and the likes. That said the cost of living is still significantly less than most Western countries. I suppose I just meant that it's easier to adapt and avoid the social issues if you have money but that applies anywhere.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 points 4 days ago

Phrased that way I fully agree. You can’t imagine how much money we pay for family birthdays and other events.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I’m sure by Guangdong you’re thinking more Guangzhou?

[–] boletus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's actually in Foshan! Accommodation is cheaper there apparently.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 points 2 days ago

Oh yeah I know many live on the edge of Foshan to work in Guangzhou :)

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Well you obviously haven’t been to or lived in China for any period of time and most likely have an idealistic view of the countr

Please do yourself a favor and depend a bit less on making things up about other people.

Chinas a great place but being ignorant to its rampant racism is just silly.

I am not ignorant of racism in China, I have already described what form it comes in. You have a chauvinistic view based on a lack of understanding and investigation.

Because you’re certainly wrong. Waste of time comment.

I am correct, actually. But you are behaving quite childishly, letting anyone still reading clock the insecurity.

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