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[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The Finns who died defending their homeland from naked, opportunistic Soviet imperialism also wish to say hi.

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 0 points 16 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago) (1 children)

Have you ever – even once – thought that if:

  • The USSR hadn't started the Winter War under the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact it signed on friendly terms with Nazi Germany to grab more land while the rest of Europe wasn't in a position to help, killing and wounding tens of thousands of Finns
  • The USSR hadn't stolen 10% of Finland's land in exchange for what can generously be described as a "promise" of peace
  • The USSR hadn't scuttled Finland's attempts afterward to develop a defensive pact with Norway and Sweden
  • The USSR hadn't invaded and absorbed the Baltic states as part of the same pact with Nazi Germany
  • The USSR hadn't demanded mineral rights already given to the UK and then instigated riots in Finland when they didn't get what they wanted
  • The USSR hadn't interfered with the December 1940 Finnish election
  • The USSR had offered to return Finland's land when it realized "oh no, the consequences of my own actions: Finland is allied militarily with Nazi Germany now."
  • The USSR had been on friendly terms with Finland instead of giving them what every serious historian describes as no realistic opportunity not to ally with Germany

That maybe they wouldn't have been forced to ally with Germany in the Continuation War? That Finland might have remained neutral or even joined in with the Allies which the Soviets were a part of? You can even look in the article you're linking to the article you're linking to:

As a part of the pact, Nazi SS chief Heinrich Himmler insisted that the Finns dispatch [1408] soldiers to the SS Wiking division similar to the volunteers it demanded from Nazi-occupied Belgium, Denmark, the Netherlands, Norway and elsewhere.

Reluctantly, Finns complied and covertly recruited the first group of 400 SS volunteers to be sent for training.

The leading Finnish military historians who undertook the probe into the country's wartime role wrote that those Finnish troops likely witnessed shootings and other atrocities against Jews and other civilians by advancing Nazi troops.

This was all done reluctantly. The Finns had no ideological alignment with the Nazis; it was done purely out of necessity because of the USSR's – again – nakedly imperialist actions. You have zero intellectual integrity. None. Your rhetoric relies not on a convincing argument but on the reader's ignorance. And I'm not even a little surprised to see you sticking up for Putin's genocidal invasion of Ukraine elsewhere.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 6 minutes ago

So you just stated that Russia was imperialistic. That in itself should give you more context about the kind of nation Russia was. Communism is a way of thought not anyone nation. Think more critically about what you say.