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[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (7 children)

You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Are you going to elaborate on where you disagree, or just "no ur wrong :( :(. Stop bullying my favorite grift"

On the drug trade issue? I'm clearly mostly focusing on all the other ways crypto is fucking stupid bullshit for people that don't understand technology.

But I don't think an entirely unregulated market with "anonymous user reviews" is really the smartest or best way to buy drugs.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Alright on break so it's gonna be shorter but feel free to reply if you want to continue later.

The first aspect of your reply was conflating developers of crypto and especially the initial intent with bad actors who've latched on and USED IT for scams, gifts, etc.. I don't see how that's a crypto specific critique at all, people scam and grift with essentially any form of ownership or commerce, seemingly that's just shitty human nature.

I work in the financial industry (blech but it pays the bills) and you see the same shit happen here even with the huge amounts of regulation that are applied, plus all the regulation came AFTER. Which is what I am assuming will happen with crypto as well as it continues to mature.

It's really not all that complicated to understand/use but it's certainly not as easy currently as just swiping a debit card, with that said though how many people do you know actually understand how their card functionally transmits money? Likely very few because you don't really need to if it works.

The electricity usage argument is partially fair, however I would love to see how much energy is required to run the already existing non-crypto payment methods, I have never once seen a single attempt at a comparison but I would wager it's likely extremely close.

Everything is politics because politics and the policies that come from it dictate our lives, there's nothing more inherently political about crypto though then any other form of payment could be when put under the microscope.

On the point if "accountability is for the people who design build maintain use and moderate a program" I'd ask you to apply that logic to other things in your life.

If you had a glass cup, broke it and used the edge to cut someone, is that the fault of the glass cup designer for not making an indestructible glass cup that couldn't possibly be used as a weapon? No right, because it's not possible to completely control what someone else does with a product, you can build in safety guardrails all you want but someone will find a way to missus it, which is where laws come in.

On the point of forking out transactions they don't like, that's where you lost me entirely, that's simply not how it works and it'd be a huge undertaking to explain why that doesn't make sense.

Then going back to accountability you use CP as an example, do you think the users web browser should prevent them from posting CP? How could that possibly be accomplished? Goes back to my point about enforcement mechanisms outside of the system being our only real option in a ton of already existing technology, but by your logic they're all just vehicles for misuse.

[–] KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Crypto currencies aren't open vessels which can be used for a vast multitude of things. They're currencies. Defending them on the basis of "what about web browsers". They're not web browsers, which are designed to connect users to the Internet, they don't allow someone to airdrop a photo of your front door into a virtual wallet without you at least consenting to the service used.

[–] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

They actually are that open, there's nothing forcing it to be used only as a currency that's why NFTs are a thing, it's just code.

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