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[–] slappypantsgo@lemm.ee 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Just want to remind everyone that we don’t have a housing shortage, we have a cost of living crisis. Everyone deserves a place to live and we have plenty. The will is the only thing. Fight YIMBY traitors. We can do it!

[–] Triasha@lemmy.world 1 points 9 minutes ago

Yimby traitors?

What's wrong with yimbys?

They won't solve the underlying problem. Sure, that requires wealth redistribution, but where is the downside?

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 5 points 16 hours ago

"YIMBY traitor" -- isn't that just a NIMBY?

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago

Two things can be wrong. We can (and should) dispose of landlords and build more housing.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not sure what you're talking about, but here in the UK we need over 4m houses to be built to house the current population. That's quite a lot for a country of 68m.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Aux@feddit.uk -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ahaha! Wtf is this shit? Bloody think tanks...

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Well, can you provide some context to your +4m new houses figure?

Then we can discuss where the difference comes from.

[–] Aux@feddit.uk -1 points 7 hours ago

Do you understand what the word "household" means? A household is an entity which pays council tax. The amount of households cannot be higher than the amount of houses, it's just impossible.

Some examples of households:

  • A single person living in a flat.
  • A family of four living in a house.
  • A group of unrelated five people living in an HMO.

First of all, households do not include homeless. There are at least 354k homeless people in England according to Shelter. That's 354k houses needed. Homeless don't live in a house, they don't pay council tax, they are not counted towards household number. Your bullshit think tank has decided that homeless are not humans and do not deserve a place to live.

Second - a family of four has two kids, kids need their own place. That's two more houses needed for this example household. ONS census indicates that at least 4.9m adults live with their parents. That's 4.9m more additional houses needed. Your bullshit think tank has decided that kids should live at parents' house until they die and dropped them from their statistics interpretation.

And last, but not least, HMOs are a temporary accommodation. People living in them - they all need their own place. There are around 480k living in HMOs in England, that's an additional 480k houses needed. But your bullshit think tank decided that these people don't matter.

The difference comes from statistics manipulation to fit the agenda to keep the houses growing to please landlord donors.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Do you guys have room for that?

[–] Aux@feddit.uk 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's loads of space. We just need to mow down terraced houses and get rid of aristocracy, which owns 40% of land in England.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

Ah, yea fine makes sense.

[–] Chonnawonga@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Anyone has room for that if it's not built in the style of American suburbs.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 1 points 15 hours ago

Well tbf Americans have room.