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[–] dorumon@lemm.ee 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah that's the thing that people who want this don't realize. Is that you are forced to use Google Messages with Google Jibe for RCS. But it's really picky about the hardware it runs on Android wise. It won't even let me send RCS messages on GrapheneOS which is a custom rom that forces you to have a unrooted version of Android. So to me this is monopolistic and terrible behavior on Google's part. Where they force carriers and now Apple to pay billions of dollars just to message Android users with end to end encryption. But like it doesn't run on my phone because you need a stock up to date version of Android that isn't too out of date either or else it also won't run. Nor does it run on my Android 11 flip phone because it's too out of date and has been blocklisted by Google as a whole. Honestly if Google just opened up Jibe to third party apps I would use it. But with the forced AI integration that you can barely turn off among other things. I'll probably stick to textra and switch away from using a smartphone as a whole when carriers in the United States demand that your phone support it in order to use it on their network.

[–] Yaky@slrpnk.net 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I run GrapheneOS and can send RCS to both Androids and iPhones mostly without issues. But then, my GrapheneOS is still the actively supported version, so I don't know what will happen in a few years.

The only reason I have Google Messages is for RCS.

[–] dorumon@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago

I am also running the latest version of GrapheneOS and cannot for the love of me get RCS to work. Like it always briefly works until it turns itself off af. Maybe there is a problem with my MVNO not paying Google for Jibe? (Yeah this is probably the case as it says that RCS is managed by my carrier after giving Messages a certain permission to verify my hardware and operating system strings). That's kinda shitty but whatever.