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[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Lol ok. I am aware that they started to demand socialism. We are saying the exact same thing there.

Where we disagree is where you're pessimistic in claiming that:

the candidate in your article will fade into irrelevancy because there isn’t a mass leftist movement to support radical change like there was back then.

I am optimistic in claiming that:

Your socialist movement is possible. We’re walking into all the conditions required to make it happen.

I get the desire to reduce an extremely complex situation into simple answers. But the New Deal wasn't just a compromise. The New Deal was an incredible leap forward for labor. And we didn't completely stop - and later regress - just because we had reached a compromise. Republicans had regained control in the late 1930s, and Americans would have witnessed in real time as their amazing economic growth completely faltered. But that didn't happen.

We regressed so dramatically because the Second World War gave us economic hegemony that allowed the US to flourish without actually doing anything to deserve it.

Neoliberalism and laissez faire capitalism would never have achieved such popularity in the modern day if not for the fact that the US economy was so strong following the New Deal and the wartime boost, and if the global economy hadn't just been completely eviscerated.

These policies would have failed much sooner and much more obviously. But full-on Middle Ages Feudalism would have been popular for an entire generation of Baby Boomers, as long as a feudalistic United States was the last major industrial nation standing in the ashes of the 1940s.

The New Deal was socialism in action. To claim it was nothing but a compromise is what actually whitewashes all of the blood spilled to make it happen. We still benefit from the legacy of the New Deal, and we are actively fighting over its legacy as we speak.

The United States could have kept moving in that direction. The United States can move in that direction again. If you won't support electoral candidates that can help make that happen, the least you could do is get out of the fucking way.

Go oppose electoral candidates that are diametrically opposed to socialism.