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[–] IceFoxX@lemm.ee -3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Who is against democratic values and abolished democracy in the first election and saw Hamas as an ally? Oh, the Palestinians who at that time were still dreaming of a worldwide genocide of Jews (not Zionists). Let an enemy of democracy and dictatorship sympathizer call me an idiot. Lol. Get out of democracy

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Who is against democratic values and abolished democracy in the first election and saw Hamas as an ally?

Where did I even mention Hamas, sweetie?

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

He has to work Hamas into his posts, other wise boss gets mad

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

The tens of millions Israel spends on PR (including ppl to comment this hasbara crap) won't change the tide. People are finally seeing how unimaginably evil the ethnic cleansing of Zionism is, now that their genocide has been live streamed for over a year nonstop against a civilian population that's mostly children.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Israelie and pro Israeli shill ops budgets are likely into billions TBH

But no amount propaganda can cover up what they are doing in Gaza. They over played their hand IMHO but it will take a generation for us and Europe to adjust their foreign policy with Israel

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Apartheid and settler colonialism is not Democratic.

It's practically impossible to have a democracy when under Apartheid, especially when Israel routinely assassinates and imprisons political leaders, in particular ones that are more moderate or left than Hamas.

Palestinian resistance has never advocated for genocide, unlike Zionism which is explicitly centered on the ethnic cleansing of all Palestinians from historic Palestine. Even prior to the nakba, a binational one-state based on equal rights was repeatedly advocated for by the Palestinians, while Zionism rejected this to instead plan it's deliberate expulsion of hundreds of Palestinian towns to establish Israel.

Hamas grew as a resistance to Apartheid and violent oppression

Hamas in its early days, according to former Israeli officials, was seen by the government of Israel as a counterweight to the PLO. Israel supported Hamas as a way to break the PLO's hold on the region. Retired official Avner Cohen, who worked in Gaza in the 1990s and oversaw religious affairs in the region, told the WSJ in 2009, “Hamas, to my great regret, is Israel’s creation."

And in the backdrop of the 2006 election were geographic and political divides between Gaza and the West Bank. Contrary to what Bennett claimed, Israel restricted Palestinians from moving in and out of Gaza, as well as between the strip and the West Bank, since at least the 1990s, after the first Palestinian Intifada, or uprising, according to Al Jazeera. In addition to Gaza's borders, the Israeli government controlled its coastline and airspace, allowing for military incursions into the territory, and, in 2007, established the blockade on goods and people that still exists as of this writing.

People Claim a Majority of Palestinians in Gaza Elected Hamas — Here's Why It Isn't That Simple

Israel propped up Hamas to justify it's routine bombing of the Gaza civilian population

This really turned and came to a head in 2007, when Hamas, after winning democratic elections in 2006, rose to power, and the Israeli authorities, along with the U.S., attempted to initiate a regime change operation, which facilitated a civil war between Hamas and Fatah and allowed Hamas to take over the Gaza Strip. Since then, Israeli authorities have actively embraced the idea that Hamas would be accepted as a governing authority in the Gaza Strip. Now, part of the calculus in that is because of Gaza’s 2 million Palestinians. This is a demographic issue. Israel wanted to sever the Gaza Strip from the rest of historic Palestine in order to reinforce its claim that it’s a Jewish-majority state. By getting rid of 2 million Palestinians, two-thirds of whom are refugees demanding return, Israel can claim to be both a Jewish state and a democracy and restructure what is its apartheid regime.

As far back as December 2012, Netanyahu told prominent Israeli journalist Dan Margalit that it was important to keep Hamas strong, as a counterweight to the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank. Margalit, in an interview, said Netanyahu told him that having two strong rivals, including Hamas, would lessen pressure on him to negotiate toward a Palestinian state.

Israel’s goal was “to ensure that the next confrontation between Israel and Hamas will be the final showdown”, he wrote in the memo, dated December 21st, 2016. A pre-emptive strike, he said, could remove most of the “leadership of the military wing of Hamas”.

More sources you ignored from last time:

https://lemmy.world/comment/16923492

Stop projecting you're fascist beliefs onto the victims of over 76 years of deliberate ethnic cleansing.