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[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

The mileage of 6 miles (10km) isn't going kill you, I'm talking about the bigger picture of cheap cars fueling urban sprawl with little spatial income density and we haven't talked about subsidy inequality yet.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

10 km

Haha yeah, 10km... 😭

Also everything else is getting more expensive and poor people are already struggling to make ends meet. Not great making their life even harder

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

I assumed fast walking to be 5 km/h and you said 2 hours.

I'm totally with you, but the US mobility problem is fucked since the 1950s and now there's no easy solution. The bigger picture is that every investment into car-only infrastructure will hurt the working poor and precariat.

A short-term solution could be raising fossil fuel taxes and subsidising people who cannot afford any other mode of transportation with a part of that money.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

"Americans think 100 years is a long time and Europeans think 100 km is a long distance"

I'm fortunate to not be in this situation anymore but the commute for my last job before this one was around 40mi. That's 64km and a bit. Prior to that it was closer to 60mi or 96.5km, I was driving over an hour just to get to work. This is not uncommon for Americans, especially poor ones. If you can't afford to live in the city but still need a job so you can eat, situations like this are sometimes unavoidable.

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

The low fuel prices built this environment.

[–] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 3 points 8 hours ago

Sure. But we're in it now, and low fuel prices maintain the ability of the American working poor to survive. Changing this now would condemn millions of innocents to bankruptcy, homelessness and eventually death.

I don't like it either, believe me. I want walkable cities, and sensible zoning, and affordable housing. But we don't have that and there isn't a magic switch we can throw to just make it happen. We've painted ourselves into a corner about this.