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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The English language is scuffed; due to misunderstandings we end up with seemingly opposite words now being used interchangeably to mean the same thing:

  • flammable and inflammable, now both usually mean something can be set alight.
  • biannual and semiannual, both mean twice a year and once every two years - which is even more confusing.

It’s at the point where if you can’t derive the intended definition from context, you need to ask for clarification! 🤦🏻‍♂️

In this context, I’m pretty sure the commenter was referring to twice-a-month payment. Here in Australia we would call that fortnightly (once every two weeks), where we end up with a scenario where twice a year we end up with 3 payments (for a total of 26 a year). This tends to be more common for hourly wages roles.

It’s been a hot minute since I was paid like that, as corporate salaried positions now tend to be monthly - in order to keep things simple for the HR and Finance teams, and honestly helps people like me to learn/maintain better fiscal responsibility and budgeting.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago

"Flammable" was invented specifically to avoid confusion with "inflammable."

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

biannual and semiannual, both mean twice a year and once every two years - which is even more confusing.

No! Bad! Do not encourage this! Like biweekly, biannually is every two years.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

I’m not encouraging it, it’s actually one of my biggest pet peeves!

I can understand why given how rarely they’re used, people get confused between semi-annual and biannual - especially since things happening every ~6 months is a more common occurrence than every ~24.

In a world where possible/impossible is simple to understand, why is flammable/inflammable confusing!?

Don’t even get me started on “literally” - I want to bang my head against my desk every time I hear it misused.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

why then separate it from biweekly?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Biweekly is fortnightly. Every two weeks. I.e. Every other Thursday.

Semi-monthly would be twice a month, i.e. the 1st and the 15th.

26 biweekly paychecks in a year...24 semimonthly paychecks in a year.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

JasonDJ did a good job at explaining the what, the why would be down to cost-cutting. There are fixed costs associated with putting out payroll (beyond man hours required, there are processing fees etc.); so opting for 2/month instead of fortnightly saves you ~10% in fixed costs.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

why not jush do it once a month then?

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In general, because the transition puts too much of a financial strain on hourly/wage staff - they tend to live paycheque to paycheque and would struggle to be able to wait an additional 2-3 weeks for their pay to come through.

Besides risking possible staff revolt, it would also make hiring staff much more difficult if new employees learned during induction they might have to wait 5 weeks to be paid!

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

...then how come it works everywhere else?

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

paying out once a month. even when i worked an hourly job at a restaurant we got paid monthly.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I guess it depends on what is seen as the norm in a particular country. In Australia, it’s most common for hourly wages to be paid either weekly or fortnightly - and I believe it’s a similar case in North America also.

Given they only the companies stand to benefit from paying employees less frequently, it makes it harder for those companies to compete for quality labour (without then offering a higher hourly rate, negating any benefit for them to do so).

[–] lime@feddit.nu 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it also benefits the workers though. that's why unions push for it.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How does being paid less frequently benefit workers?

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it helps structure personal finances since bills are always due at the end of the month. it also incentivices putting more into savings. at least that's how i understand it.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Counter-point: it actually robs those employees from learning the ability to save, and denies them (albeit small, incremental) opportunities to earn interest.

You just made me recall one of my gripes with the finance department at my previous job; they would withhold posting an invoice until the week after it was due, and considered it good business. Why? Because that 100K would sit in their bank account for 5-7 more business days accumulating interest at ~5%.

It’s no different to only paying employees monthly; the company profits from withholding payment for as long as possible.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

well i don't know too much about this other than the fact that we do it because labour unions.

also, that anecdote describes a breach of contract. that's why late fees are so large.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You’d be surprised just how common ‘breaches of contract’ like this are, especially among SMEs.

If the supplier knows that the customer has a tendency to pay invoices EOM +35 rather than EOM+30, it’s not worth the cost to pursue legally - especially as doing so would risk them losing a client.

The first secret of business is to collect money as quickly as possible, and avoid paying out as long as possible, to profit off the arbitrage.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

here everyone just stopped doing business with us when the company i was at tried that. we were about to go bankrupt so they tried to squeeze more money out and as a result everyone just left.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Total stab in the dark, but I assume you’re somewhere in continental Europe?

Seems like your businesses have a lot more scruples, morals and ethics than ours do!

[–] lime@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

well not continental, but yeah. i wouldn't want to work for a company without some sort of moral code. it's all written down it our bylaws how we should act towards customers, governments, prospects, etc. to not break any laws and always compete fairly.