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That argument is indeed stupid, but Kurtzman Trek is inferior in every other way.
Everything is just bad.
I still maintain that as great as DS9 was, it started Trek on a self-destructive path of constantly trying to go even darker and edgier. Gene had utopian rules for a reason, and although some of them were probably too restrictive, the whole point of Star Trek, the unique selling point it possesses that no other franchise has, is that it offers us a vision of the future that isn't a dystopian hellscape. A positive look at what the future could be for us if we follow our nobler instincts. DS9 eroded that by suggesting that it was all bullshit, that the Federation was just as unenlightened as we are today, and although it made for a great show in the short term, in the long term it hurt the franchise because darker and edgier yields ever diminishing returns.
That's my impression from DIS, but isn't SNW supposed to be decent?
SNW is decent. S2 E2 is an especially strong episode.
Nope.
I tried a few episodes because someone said they'd done a great space battle. The battle was 8/10, but every thing else was just dumb.
I found SNW to be a fresh breath of air after the garbage that Disco was. Sure, some filler episodes were weird, but at least I got a chuckle out of the Klingons rapping.
The problem with the K (for Klingon, of course) Pop scene is that the song didn't last long enough.
Shit, you're right! I had more of a Hiphop vibe in my memory. I love how the Klingon is so annoyed that he can't prevent the singing. Peak comedy.
Here are two shows worth watching.
"Utopia" a group of comic book fans discover that their favorite read is a secret message from an escapee from a sinister organization.
"The Prisoner" The grandfather of all paranoid fantasy shows. An unnamed civil servant resigns and is kidnapped. He's taken to The Village, where he's told he is Number 6...
Thank you for the recommendations!
In case anyone wants to watch those, too, they're "Utopia (2013)" and "The Prisoner (1967)". There are quite a few series and movies with those names.
also make sure to watch the UK version of Utopia, not the very very bad US remake
silly me
snw was too robotic, seems like the actors were being forced to say those lines every scene. they had good premise but the execution was poor, as the other 2 series. picard was equally cringey as std, again they had so MUCH history they can use for the show, but it ended falling flat, and they were using source material from fan novels. (the friendly borg, the rogue changelings,,,etx) all came from various novels.
prodigy and lower decks were much better shows than the 3 though. too bad t hey got cancelled too fast.
dint kurtzman do the transformer series? i dont know why he was chose for this. almost end of every season, was universing ending event, the exact same plot as the previous season, and then they drop it the next seasons. remember the horrible klingon look, and thier cloaking, people had so much issues they partially dropped it on the 2nd season, and "Escaped to the 31st " century.
If he's the one behind "Strange New Worlds" I have to agree. Watched about three episodes and gave up.
Team lands on a strange object with the power to move a planet. "Hey, let me grab this thing!"
SNW was just too much like the other 2. had a big bad romulans at the end of season 1, but they dint do anything with them the next season, just completely disappeared.
To be fair, the Romulans only showed up because this was an alternate timeline version of a TOS episode.
What I'd like to see is a complete reboot. No humanoid aliens with five fingers; only nightmare creatures. Erase all prior canon. Start with an Earth based starship with a crew of five hundred humans. And get some real scientists to come up with plots.
enterprise wouldve gone on longer if les moonves dint trash the show. that wouldve been a good start.