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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes, and it was shown as a huge internal conflict in TNG, and honestly even TOS had a bunch of inconsistent morality that didn't quite fit a utopian society, you have a lot of state secrets, a lot of espionage, paranoia, and a cold war that includes violating the prime directive on a regular basis as long as they think the Klingons will also violate around the same degree, and that's really not a very good idea, I really doubt the Vulcans would arm a bronze age civilization on a developing planet with muskets if they thought the Klingons might also do That.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

I really doubt the Vulcans would arm a bronze age civilization on a developing planet with muskets if they thought the Klingons might also do That.

If anything, I think that it might be more likely for the Vulcans to do such a thing. Don't forget that they did interfere with human development a bunch, because they could not readily put them into their existing categories, out of concern for what might happen otherwise.

It does not seem unreasonable that under the same circumstances, they might find it logical to arm a bronze-age civilisation against an alien enemy.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i remember its the reason why the borg even exist, someone mention gene roddenberrry was fighting people that the parasites in that one episode was susceptible to evil and corruption if they are bieng controlled. so they created a borg as a compromise. the episode where the parasites was controlling star trek command and it sent a signal to the delta quadrant, sound familiar just the like borg.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The idea of the borg feel more like "hey, the federation sounds suspiciously like communism that works, can't we introduce "evil communism" to show how evil it is"?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i think the parasites were suppose to be the og borg, but gene or someone dint like that idea, that the starfleet can ben controlled by an alien.

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sounds probable judging from the stories of the writers fighting Roddenberry's story mandates. And as soon as he was dead, they did the infiltrating founders anyway on DS9.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago

that episode was wierd, since everyone thought there was a followup. because they send the big bad signal to the delta quadrant which indicates they were from there about to invade, the queen that was controlling the host had the "map of sectors in the background, which i was taken to say he was sending it there). later replaced by the borg which did the same thing.