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"it's either socialism or barbarism" (lemmy.ml)
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as the western hegemony continues to crumble, and far-right and fascist formations ramp up their rhetoric and violence, this statement comes more into focus by the day

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[โ€“] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Government would still exist, right?

The state, as in the structure that enforces the domination of one class over another would cease to exist, but decision making and things would need to happen to keep the post-scarcity maintained, right?

Or would automation remove the need for that too?

[โ€“] culprit@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateless_society

In stateless societies, there is little concentration of authority. Most positions of authority that do exist are very limited in power, and they are generally not permanent positions, and social bodies that resolve disputes through predefined rules tend to be small.

Over the course of history most stateless peoples have become integrated into external state-based societies.

Some political philosophies, particularly anarchism, regard the state as an unwelcome institution and stateless societies as the ideal, while Marxism considers that in a post-capitalist society, the state would become unnecessary and would wither away.

This is the goal. As the means of production are socialized (owned by everyone), the concentrations of wealth, influence, power and authority would be eroded down. It is continually iterative process with democratic and participatory inputs.