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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

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Mfw my doomsday ai cult attracts ai cultists of a flavor I don't like

Not a fan of yud but getting daily emails from delulus would drive me to wish for the basilisk

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[–] visaVisa@awful.systems 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

Is the whole x risk thing as common outside of North America? Realizing I've never seen anyone from outside the anglosphere or even just America/Canada be as God killingly Rational as the usual suspects

[–] jaschop@awful.systems 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Might be semi-related: the german aerospace/automotive/industrial research agency has an "AI Safety" institute (institute = top level department).

I got a rough impression from their website. They don't seem to be doing anything that successful. Mostly fighting the unwinnable battles of putting AI in everything without sucking and twiddling machine learning models to make them resilient against malicous data. Besides trying to keep the torch of self-driving cars alive for the german car industry. Oh, and they're doing the quantum AI bit.

They're a fairly new institute, and I heard rumors they're not doing great. Maybe the organization resists the necessary insanity to generate new AI FOMO at this point. One can dream.

[–] visaVisa@awful.systems 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Kinda interesting that it's focused on smaller scale risks like malicious data instead of ahhh extinction ahhh

[–] jaschop@awful.systems 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, the same thing struck me. I'd guess they were jumping on the buzzword, but x-risk just was deemed gaudy and unserious.

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