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Big naturals is way easier to pronounce (sub.wetshaving.social)
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[–] jxk@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Thanks for the comment - - I will fight for recognizing zero as a natural number

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In mathematics, the natural numbers are the numbers 0, 1, 2, 3, and so on, possibly excluding 0.[1] Some start counting with 0, defining the natural numbers as the non-negative integers 0, 1, 2, 3, ..., while others start with 1, defining them as the positive integers 1, 2, 3, ... .[a] Some authors acknowledge both definitions whenever convenient.[2] Sometimes, the whole numbers are the natural numbers as well as zero. In other cases, the whole numbers refer to all of the integers, including negative integers.[3] The counting numbers are another term for the natural numbers, particularly in primary education, and are ambiguous as well although typically start at 1.

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So it is undefined behavior, great

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes. Some mathematicians think that 0 is natural, others don't. So "natural number" is ambiguous.

In order to avoid ambiguity, instead of using fancy "N", you should use fancy "N0" to refer to {0,1,2,3,4,...} and "positive integers" to refer to {1,2,3,4,...}.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Zero indexed gang, yes

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If your array doesn't start at zero I'm not sure we can be friends.

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 2 points 2 months ago

sure, but a large one?