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Biden dismisses Trump inquiry into his cognitive decline as a ‘distraction’
(www.theguardian.com)
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Bro, do not even fucking dare to pretend to know how I vote or how deeply involved I am in politics. I've got decades of experience on campaigns in the US.
If the Democrats continue to do what you are expressing, and thats a key fucking word, because they already tried to do what you are outlining, they will lose all future elections. There is no hope that the imaginary centrist, the actual most unreliable voter in the fucking world, is going to fix this. Democrats only shot at retaking power is to embrace their actual left wing base instead of trying to be diet Republican.
I keep having to repeat it for you. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. We already tried your approach: Its a fucking disaster.
Remove the centrists, remove the corporatists. Kick them to the fucking curb for the worthless, and key word, unreliable pieces of shit that they are. Give the people something they actually want to fucking vote for and they will.
I'm not. I said a bunch of 'if' including acknowledging that if you're already actively engaged then you're not to whom my advocacy is addressed.
Nice. I applaud you for that.
I'm advocating for the eligible voters who don't vote in one or both of the primaries or the general to vote. I'm telling them to stop waiting for "the Democrats" to altruistically change track and cater to them, because "the Democrats" aren't going to do that.
If the left wing base comes out to vote. I'm arguing that they have not been coming out to vote (in the primaries, to ensure the nomination of left wing candidates), and therefore the Democrats do not target them to win the votes they don't cast.
When? Primary turnout sucks. Looking at all the even years back to 2000 I'm not seeing a single state hitting 50.
https://statesunited.org/resources/voter-turnout-since-2000/
That's what I'm saying. I'm just saying we the people should do it by voting instead of losing elections by not voting.
I don't believe they will. They didn't give Bernie to the people of Vermont or AOC to the people of New York or Ilhan Omar to the people of Minnesota. All of them ran in the primary for the Democratic nomination and won by the voters (you probably already know but Bernie won the Vermont Democratic primary for Senator in 2008 then turned it down and ran as an Independent). So let's take our future ourselves by voting. If the numbers are there and they come out in the primaries then we get what we want.
There isn't enough time in the world to go through and correct the factual inaccuracies in what you just wrote, let alone the strategic mistakes you are advocating for.
What it comes down to: You want voters to be different than they are.
They aren't. They are how they are. Meet them where they are at or lose.
Who the fuck is it that you think does the actual boots-on-the ground volunteering on these campaigns? Fucking Jake Tapper viewers? You have no fucking clue how elections work and who the actual volunteers are, and it shows.
You've drank a giant bottle of getting mixed the fuck up kool-aid when it comes to cause and effect, and your entire approach to electoralism, one we've shown as a failure, depends on basically "wishing" voters to be different than they are. They arent.
Bro, no one, not one single soul, should care what you believe. You don't have a strategy and you are advocating to lose another cycle to fascism.
I want non-voters to vote. They aren't voters if they don't vote. I'm not addressing my comments to people who are already voting. I ~~do~~ don't know why you find this to be such a controversial take, but you do you.
Edit to fix typo.
Its not a controversial take. Its an incredibly common, vapid, worthless, and idiotic take, and it needs to be shut down at every turn. Because your take, this exact take you are outlining: it dominated the Democratic narrative and strategy in 2024.
And most importantly: it 👉 loses👈 👉fucking 👈 👉elections 👈 .
It needs to be resisted at every fucking turn because this weevil brained take is quite literally what Democrats banked on and it handed all branches of government to fascists.
Any one for whom this is as far as their thinking is capable of taking them; they need to be ignored. Permanently.
We couldn't afford to suffer this kind of idiocy in 2024 and yet we were forced to. It need to be killed in the crib.