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Is anybody else bouncing off Nightreign? (leminal.space)

submitted 2 days ago by sad_detective_man@leminal.space to c/soulslike@lemmy.zip

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I feel like I'm going crazy. I love the nightfarers, their mechanics are absolute peak. The sekiro parry has never had more parry frames, the witch lady has a million spells she can combine and they all give me the wizard power fantasy I try to recreate in every game. The new bosses look amazing, it's the weirdest shit I could have ever asked for because I love Fromsoft weird shit. I should love this game.

But I'm tearing my hair out because it's just not fun. I remember feeling similar about Bloodborne when I first tried it but when somebody explained to me I was just interacting with the game's economy wrong it turned it around to be my favorite. So I was hoping this would be similar and I would just need to adjust my expectations and reframe how I move through the game.

But I literally can't with this time limit. I don't like sprinting through the world at lightspeed trying to gobble up items. The play area diminishes as time goes on, I get to see and explore less as I play the game. When I fail against a boss, it's not an opportunity to change and grow. it's the timer starting over again as I hit the slot machine for another roll at some items.

I watched people like letmesoloher and saint riot play and it doesn't seem like I'm doing it wrong, you're supposed to move at a breakneck pace with your friends and blender enemies like Elden Ring co-opers do. I don't know. Am I alone in this? Did anybody else sincerely try but fail to like it?

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[–] FRYD@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I’m a huge fan of both roguelikes and the souls series and I burned out pretty quick on nightreign. I think my main problem was that the game was all gas, no brakes. It’s frantic and fun at first, but it quickly becomes “the longest boss run up ever” as I’ve heard others say.

They streamlined the souls part of the game to maintain the speed, but they streamlined out the main fun of souls games to me. Every souls game I’ve played was “oh this weapon looks cool, let me try to make a build around it that works”. In nightreign, you figure out the best builds and hope to luck into it. Sure you can try to make a crappy weapon work, but you end up just wasting everyone’s time if you don’t and you may not see that weapon in the next run which makes practicing it way less effective.

[–] sad_detective_man@leminal.space 3 points 2 days ago

EXACTLY! Almost all the cool Fromsoft elements and moments got dropped to streamline getting to the objective. Like, I know there's no new weapons and the map is basically Limgrave with some extra bits here and there but I would have still liked to exist in that world a little.

Points though for engineering a situation where for once in my life I felt backed into a corner enough to actually try using a katana. That never happened to me in Elden Ring