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Could you please kindly tell me what IRS stands for?
The Internal Revenue Service. It's the U.S. tax collection agency, created a bit over a century ago under, shall we say, questionable circumstances.
What do you mean by questionable circumstances?
They are referring to some fringe "tax protester" conspiracy theories which dispute that the 16th amendment was properly ratified. You can read about them here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_protester_Sixteenth_Amendment_arguments#Sixteenth_Amendment_ratification
Suffice it to say, these 'theories' have been largely rejected, including by the states themselves, and by the SCOTUS.
Sorry, saw your response just after I had posted the same in response to his comment.
There is no historical agreement that states ratifying the income tax itself actually happened.
There is no historical agreement that the earth is round, but guess what?
When the second argument that is listed in Wikipedia is that Ohio doesn't count when it had been a state for over a century before the amendment was proposed, I start to think these arguments are specious at best. It seems every judge the case had gone before agreed with that stance, which also sounds like historical agreement to me. Given the amendment was proposed due to the Supreme Court overturning income tax as unconstitutional, it also appears the courts were more than willing to rule against income tax prior to this supposedly dubious amendment.
Do you have any evidence that is stronger than the Obama birther conspiracies?