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submitted 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) by Powderhorn@beehaw.org to c/usnews@beehaw.org

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I'm violating my own rules here, but the media are not keeping up with developments, so I'm having to wing it.

Helicopter 1

Helicopter 2

These are chemical containers being unloaded from both helicopters. The commenters on Reddit are far more qualified than I am to extrapolate, but at the base level, the government flying them into the middle of a city is ... troubling.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

International law covers crimes against humanity. It includes laws protecting citizens from their governments, during peace time

My point is that curfews and martial law don't protect people. Its how governments opress people. A crime against their population

We need that clearly listed in national and international laws. So that if any politician calls for curfews or martial law, they know that's a direct ticket to a looong prison sentence

[–] jarfil@beehaw.org 2 points 5 days ago

A law, to be law, needs to be enforceable, otherwise it's just a suggestion. International law is only enforceable through voluntary compliance, coercion, or war. Yes, during peace time many countries pick the voluntary way, others need coercion... and some ignore everything.

Curfews and martial law, are war-time measures. Check how they work in countries openly at war. If you get them in a country "at peace"... well, I have bad news, but it isn't really at peace.

When you get a government fighting its own population, that isn't simply oppression, that's civil war.

[–] Powderhorn@beehaw.org 2 points 5 days ago

And look how much of a shit the U.S. has historically given about these norms. What about Cambodia followed the Geneva Conventions?

It's always been an oppressive system here, but we just shifted up a gear by adding the NG.