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Source of news: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/6/7/ice-launches-military-style-raids-in-los-angeles-what-we-know

This is Stephen Miller's (White House Deputy Chief) response to Karen Bass (Los Angeles Mayor).

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[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Then by OPs logic it would follow that the oppressed are only in that position because they are weak. (e.g. not temporarily disenfranchised revolutionaries) If they were "strong" they would be in the oppressors position.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Life isn't black and white, you know?

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's pretty callow, imo.

Is water good or bad? Are you drowning, or thirsty? Maybe you're swimming. Maybe it's in water where raw sewage or chemical waste is dumped. Maybe it's pristine and you accidentally swallow some, but now you have cholera because an infected animal eliminated in that spot. Maybe it's full of microplastics.

Instead, maybe you can picture life questions as one of those color picker sliders, and the slider can move infinitely in any direction.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You are really beating up that strawman. He doesn't stand a chance.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I searched for a post but couldn't find it now, and it's too bad because it addresses exactly this mindset, but basically talked about how liberalism boils everything down to a zero sum game, among the general populace.

Somehow, the masses never develop enough unity to take that zero sum game to the ultrawealthy and global corporations.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Somehow, the [weak] never develop enough [strength] to take that zero sum game to the [strong].

Exactly what I was saying.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

You and I see the world very differently. You see money as strength; I see it as a tool, a means to an end. Nonetheless, a coalition may be beneficial.

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Money is a tool to make you stronger. Strength is a means to imposing your will on the world around you.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

When the world currencies reflect their true value, which is nothing, then what?

[–] Manmoth@lemmy.ml 0 points 5 days ago

The strong will always rule over the weak.