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Cause Iran was heaven before the US arrived in Iran.
It actually was quite nice. It was socially progressive and had respected universities, freedom of religion, freedom of speech, women's rights and was even quite respected for its art. It was a vacation destination for many westerners.
Unfortunately, it also had oil and you know how American conservatives are about oil. They absolutely wrecked Iran's government in an attempt to aquire their oil, manipulating the locals into installing a conservatave government.
What you see there today is a conservative win-condition; a hellscape of oppression, sickness and death. This is a glimpse at our future in the U.S. if conservatives have their way.
No one believes that. Maybe Russians.
It's not about "belief". It's reality. Here are some photos to show you what Iran looked like in the 1960's. Any basic web search will explain Iran's history to you. No need to take my word for it.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/iran-blog/gallery/2014/sep/10/iran-swinging-sixties-in-pictures
Stories like these tend to leave out the parts about the extreme disparity in progressiveness between urban and rural populations. While these photographs were taken the majoirty of the population still lived culturally at least as they had during the middle ages.
But the US went to Iran a long time after that
Are you still here?
Pretty sure US never had access to Iranian oil reserves.
You are wrong. Here's a Wikipedia article detailing US involvement in Iranian oil after leading the coup, but just before the islamic revolution.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consortium_Agreement_of_1954
Okay? That means it's impossible to intervene with positive results, right?
It's a literal rule of the universe, lol.
The US having involvement in Iran's oil in the past has nothing to do with future positive results from whatever intervention you are suggesting.
I'm not sure what you are so upset about. You made a false statement minimizing US involvement in the creation of Iran's current conservative hellscape and I replied with factual data showing US involvement. Conservatism is a plague of oppression. You should not defend conservatives. They do not need or deserve your defense.
If by "intervention" you mean invading Iran to liberate the citizens, I really don't know if that would be successful or not. Maybe it would be.
The citizens certainly need saving. But, I suspect US conservatives would be very opposed to an invasion to liberate people who are suffering (conservatives prefer that people suffer). I also suspect non-conservatives (normal people) in the US will be resistant to invading a country for any reason at all, based on past sentiments. So, even if an invasion would be successful, I doubt it could happen. That's why I think their best hope is revolution without intervention.
Hey man, wake me up when these problems get solved doing something I don't suggest.
I can wait.
You'll be waiting a long time because you've suggested nothing.
Read my other posts.
I've read both of your low effort shitposts, Sparky.
Uhh... what?
Why are you saying I didn't suggest anything when I clearly did.
You can keep the snide remarks to yourself, btw. Try to discuss in a civil manner.
Your first post:
Your second post:
To the untrained eye, your posts appear to lack specificity or detail. Additionally, there does not appear to be a premise suggesting a solution to any problem. However, I'm certain a knowledgable scholar would quickly decipher the coded guidance you have provided us here.
Good sir or madam, perhaps you could elucidate us on which of your fine comments have suggested a solution. And also, perhaps you could also state the problem you believe your solution would solve. I shall wait here in the sitting room.
Good day to you.
https://unilem.org/comment/965513
You have linked to a comment that does not exist for me when I click the link. I am using the Connect App and am on Lemmy.World. I'm not sure how a removed post should look, but I'm guessing this may be it.
Try opening it in a browser.
Ok. That worked. Wow. I'll give you this... Your suggestion is fascinating. Not because I think it could work, but because you think it could work.
Also, I'm genuinely fascinated by your repeated use of some variation of "Wake me up when these problems get solved doing something I don’t suggest." You've punctuated numerous comments in the same thread this way. I really don't mean this to sound insulting at all. Are you, by chance, on the spectrum? If so, please forgive my previous abrasiveness as I thought you were just a conservative.
Yeah. Because until these problems get solved doing something I don't suggest, you don't really have a reason to think my suggestions are impossible to work.
Let me know what that happens and I'll concede. Not a moment before.
More insults, lol. Clearly you're not capable of engaging in a respectful manner. Probably because you don't feel confident in your argument and have to attack me personally instead of what I'm saying.
I see it all the time.
Gonna have to block you now. Goodbye.
It really wasn't meant as an insult. I am being genuine. I know folks on the spectrum and I thought your language pattern looked similar.
Maybe your ideas would work, and I actually like the creativity and drive behind them. I just doubt any country would put forth such immense effort and expense. Especially the west where we are so greed driven.