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[–] wpb@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Not every jew is a zionist. Don't conflate the two. Israel does not have a right to exist, and jews do.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Where should the Israel Jews go now though?

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Same place the Germans went after the holocaust ended. Same place the white South Africans went after their apartheid ended.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Most surviving German Jews went to the Levant (bear in mind that ⅔ were killed by Nazis).

White South Africans didn't experience genocide.

[–] wpb@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Isreal is committing a genocide right now, and has been maintaining an apartheid state for decades. In this analogy, they're the white South Africans. They're the nazis.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago

Whether or not Israel has a right to exist, it is a childish fantasy to imagine it will vanish.

[–] sqgl@sh.itjust.works 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Black South African leadership did not express a desire to kill all whites. Hamas have expressed a desire to kill all Jews in the Levant so the analogy does not hold.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Who are you imaging here? The number of palestinian jews is relatively tiny. They're mostly been driven out of israel by the european white supremacists.

https://csalateral.org/forum/cultural-constructions-race-racism-middle-east-north-africa-southwest-asia-mena-swana/cooption-erasure-mizrahi-culture-israel-crasnow/

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org -1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You want to force Jews into the diaspora again? Brilliant move, that worked so well for them the first time around. /s

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If zios can't handle freedom, democracy, equality, etc. in palestine, they're free as always to return to their actual homes in usa, europe, russia, asia, africa, etc... Unless ofc the zio regime locks them in.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You want to force Jews into the diaspora again?

So, the only alternative to diaspora is an apartheid ethnostate in occupied land?

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

of course not. the alternative should be a free and open society where Jews are but one of many groups.

Israel is currently sliding away from this - sadly - but it still has the potential

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Israel is currently sliding away from this

It's not. It's the very conception of the state of Israel. It was funded through the Naqba, a forcible relocation of hundreds of thousands of Palestinians. The very idea of the modern state of Israel is genocidal and an apartheid ethnostate

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

would you also claim the same for the United States? Their original sin is even darker, as most natives did not move away but simply died.

Iriginal sin is not necessarily destiny.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com -1 points 13 hours ago

Hitler famously inspired his Lebensraum theory in the US example and the Manifest Destiny doctrine. The US successfully genocided almost the entirety of native Americans. So yes, I would make a similar claim for the USA