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[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Israel is not only at the very center of the world (look at maps: it's very much the geographic center. That's why we call it middle east.)

it's also reckless and like a dying star, a supernova. it blows up without regards to casualties. it is a very dangerous situation that we're in indeed.

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

geographic center

Just shows where you buy your maps.

Map with N&S America centered

Map with East Asia centered

[–] Wolf@lemmy.today 1 points 4 hours ago
[–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

fair

i guess most western maps are arranged in such a way that the middle east is in the center and the atlantic is on the map completely because

  1. the atlantic has probably been more important historically than the pacific, as europeans sailed over the atlantic, not the pacific.

  2. the pacific ocean is a bigger body of water, so having it on the "back" side of the globe makes sense because this way, you have a more uninteresting back-side of the globe and a more interesting front-side.

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 2 points 5 hours ago

No, they are not. I really suggest you look at an European map. Algeria/Mali are in the center of the map, depending on how much Antarctica is included.

Maps are normally centered roughly around the region you buy them in. European maps are centered on the 0 meridian, because it fits so nicely while keeping the European countries around the center. The 0 meridian was just defined by the Brits as going through Greenwich.

The bottom is cut of more, because Antarctica is less interesting than Canada, Greenland and Siberia.

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org -3 points 21 hours ago (4 children)

I dont see the potential for global conflict.

Israel and Iran have been trading blows for decades now. Some direct, many indirect. It's a regional conflict, and regional it will remain.

Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we're all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.

(That being said, is Netanyahu a deplorable asshat? Absolutely yes – but for different reasons)

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

religious crazies to have nukes.

So what are you doing to disarm the zio cult?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

It’s a regional conflict,

Try reading a book sometime jfc.

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

Oh yeah, so glad Israel is standing up for the world with its religious insanity and genocide.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

"have been trading blows for decades now. Some direct, many indirect. It’s a regional conflict, and regional it will remain."

Lol, this sounds like a quote from someone in 1914 being catastrophicly wrong.

Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we’re all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.

But apparently we do need religious crazies who already have nukes, are in the middle of a massive genocide, are attacking and occupying multiple other countries, and have ambitions of conquering the whole middle east, to act as World Police?

You're literally endorsing war crimes.

Netanyahu a deplorable asshat

By "deplorable asshat", you mean the fascist leader of a genocidal ethnostate currently launching multiple wars of aggression.

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago

Lol, this sounds like a quote from someone in 1914 being catastrophicly wrong.

...or from someone describing one of the scores of conflicts since where "regional" has been a fitting description

[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we’re all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.

At this point, I would be fine with Iran having the bomb. I really don't see any evidence that they would behave more recklessly with it than Israel does.

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 0 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

cue Oprah

YOU GET THE BOMB, YOU GET THE BOMB, YOU GET THE BOMB, EVERYONE GETS THE BOMB!


Them not behaving more recklessly than Israel is unfortunately not a high bar; which given their past actions I'm not sure they'd pass. I'd like to err on the side of caution here.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

What "past actions"? Being constantly attacked and threatened by empire and a genocidal cult?

[–] Fusselwurm@feddit.org 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

for starters, If you'd like to immerse yourself into the system of Middle Eastern clients and proxies, you will have an especially fun and long day going through the rather noxious minions of Iran.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 hours ago

Iran has a right to self defense. Them getting the bomb is the side of caution here. Otherwise they will keep being attacked by Israel and it's allies