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Uh, while I also agree modern trucks are unnecessary large, I think you might be a tad lost. Your post history in this community is primarily disparaging vehicles. It's good conversation and all, don't get me wrong, but perhaps this kind of ragging feels more suited elsewhere.
As a car enthusiast, personally I 1000% agree with the post. To me this is absolutely the right place for this post.
I want my pop up and down headlights back, and instead we have dumb SUVs with bumpers 6ft tall and zero appeal so that a soccer mom can plow over pedestrians with peak lethality
But the popups are "unsafe". Because then you might hit a pedestrian. At night. When everything being open at night in the US died during covid. Makes sense ๐
I want them back ๐ฅน
Guess I had a different takeaway from the graphic. I kinda see that now.
Updoot.
Was that the reason? I figured they faded away because they were an additional manufacturing and maintenance expense because of the moving parts.
Heck, they allowed for shallower hoods that seem to be safer for pedestrians when they are down!
The UNECE made it very difficult for pop-up headlights to comply with pedestrian safety regulations. But truth be told, pop-ups were also known to be unnecessarily complicated and prone to failure. The reason why they are no longer around is (as usual) a combination of multiple factors.
I think you got me confused with someone else because this couldn't be further from the truth lol. I've worked as a mechanic and I own two classic cars.
Alrighty. I'll concede. ๐
I also own a few classics, including a Porsche 944 turbo with popup headlights. But it stopped running almost a decade ago. Poor car.
Oooh, pretty! Shame it doesn't run
Ha yeah. It was repainted "Black Cherry" ages ago. Really nice color in the sun.
I think the turbo is leaking oil, fouling stuff pretty quick, and I dislodged the firewall pumping the clutch so that needs a few welds to keep from flexing. Lots of stuff to do on that car, and other projects had priority.
I really like the pop-ups on older Porsches, the 944 and 928 are probably my favorites.
Yeah I'm a sucker for the late '80s designs. 944, 928, 959
Honestly, as one of the moderators of !fuckcars (and a NA Miata owner, BTW), this is the first version of the "big trucks bad" kind of post that doesn't bother me.
I'm usually very much not a fan of those because those threads easily devolve into missing the point that all cars are bad for urbanism, not just big ones, and end up with people virtue-signaling because they drive small cars instead of recognizing that they're still part of the problem. "Safety" (the subset that applies after already having been hit by a car, no less!) is only a tiny fraction of what !fuckcars is about.
This post, on the other hand, is pointing out the hypocrisy of that sort of thing so I'm all for it.
I think the disparity in regulation is among the (surprisingly large number of) things both communities can agree on!
Speaking of which: my Miata is for autocross and curvy mountain roads. My daily-driver is a bicycle. In fact, having options other than driving is why I can afford to own fun cars instead of practical ones!